The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

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Woe and behold when CAS thats been busted for 7 years gets put down…

I personally wouldnt get mad that after so many years it falls out of CAS favor…

If you wanted to enjoy top tier and not play against METAS, then as Ive said before. Playerbase wouldnt of rode CAS for years, always leaving them on top.

I dont see why when the dynamic shifts in terms of anti air capabilities the word “broken” gets thrown out there. So its broken if CAS get supressed for once but it wasnt for the past 7 years when CAS casually just r**** everyone they saw.

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I have bind for that. You can click it all the day but maws will still detect launch and give more than enough time to dodge.

Because the S1 is a better aa than the iris t or sum?

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what’s he said which is factually wrong?

I don’t even see what he quoted mate, he’s just spammed out what yiu said was factually incorrect

1471

He quoted me on something, but I jumped on him for contributing almost nothing with that comment.

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1472

What…?
Radar signature is independent of the radar of the target…?

Also, last I checked, every plane in WT has the same RCS other than the F-117. So…?

What’s more maneuverable on the deck, F-15E or Su-30SM2?(Their size is pretty similar) Thus which one of the two is easier to multipath?

Like, the F-18 is widely considered to be one of the worst 14.3 in the game, let alone 14.7. To call the Su-30SM2 worse than it because the guy can’t multipath with his Su-30 or something is one of the wildest thing I’ve read on this forum. And there are some guiness book takes here.

So do an effort and stop feeding his ragebaiting.

1473

In DCS it surely isnt, it just nukes whatever you throw at it (which is the entire point) (20km max engagment range)

The IRIST is supposed to nuke you before you get close enough to harass it.

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I meab it was pointless to comment that, I genuinely agree with most of what you say. This new Pantsir as well I’ve come across it a few times, and i’ve managed to kill it twice with GBUs off of the JH7A, launched my KH29 at it and slung a bomb from a different angle, what I find is most folks try shooting down the plane over the munitions.

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Yeah, if they lock the planez they can focus the munitions thanks to automatic tracking.

It gets annoying fast if you get jumped at different angles

1477

Aye I like having fun in CAS sue me. I’m just saying if you’re going to break CAS at least give me something nice in the other nations to use and clear skies like USSR does now

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Thats where the problem begins, U.S just doesnt. None of the nations do.

I find nations have a problem clearing the skies of their own clutter because Russian planes dont bring the amount of munitions american planes do.

Youre always gonna be fighting some western nation and as a result your own overwhelming cas lol

Yes kh-29s are powerful but youre more likey to intercept 3 or 4 fired and still have ammo to spare versus some us pilot throwing 4 mavericks added with like 6 smalls

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i’m not sure about it.
btw there’s a reason of why ur RWR doesn’t ping aircrafts that have their radar turned off.

maybe check again.

maneuverability has nothing to do in this case.
if u launch a missile top-down to an aircraft below u (Fox-3 for example), which one u think is going to be easier to hit for the missile? a F-18 or a Su-30?

i never called Su-30SM2 worse than F-18 for not being able of multipathing, who even multipaths in 2026.
i think u’re a little too raged for something u don’t know.

do an effort and look for what we’re talking instead of talking nonsense without checking or searching about it.

1480

Wrong.
They could give a C-ram truck to certain western AA to better help with ammo interception and additional ammo boxes to SPAA that need it like China and Israel.

This is factually false, proven by Sim top bracket REDFOR recent winrate in excess of 60% even without the new Pantsir.

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i doubt a C-RAM can do the same job as the Pantsir with effectiveness…

1482

Sim is a different story altogether so im not gonna venture too fsr into that realm since SPAA dont account much

Yeah they could give U.S a C-Ram, but a cram isnt a missle system obviously.

1483

I think you’re mixing absolutely everything.
Radar signature(or RCS, Radar Cross Section) is how easy you are to detect by an enemy radar. Plane size, shape, and coating is what matter here. Every plane in WT has the same RCS other than the F-117.

RWR(Radar warning receiver) is a wave receiver and analyzer. RWR doesn’t show enemy aircraft that have the radar turned off because there’s no radar wave hitting the RWR antenna.

Absolutely the same. They just need to notch and chaff which both planes can do easily.

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Cram just cant shoot down planes is all (at long range) nd it can still be overwhelmed from multiple angles

1485

wrong.

my bad then, srry for that.

1486

The mobile Phalanx systems and the Skyranger wouldn’t be as good as the Pantsir, but they still would be able to intercept way more incoming ordnance than the currently available blufor anti airs can

A lot of the SHORADs that already are in the game also should be more capable when it comes to shooting down A2G ordnance, but I doubt Gaijin will ever bother to improve that, considering that they cannot be bothered to give older SPAAs capabilities that they are still missing

It’s too bad that Gaijin only ever seems to help the ground players when CAS gets completely out of hand (which usually happens when CAS players get the “cool” weapons that they keep asking for)

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