you have to pull away at the right moment. The AGM-179 basically has a sustainer motor that lasts for about 35 seconds, so it always has enough power to make turns.
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this is all i can say.
i wanted to say the same things, but i’m pretty sure anybody would take me seriously XD
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Same can be said for vikhrs sure but again, they fly straight, have prox fuse and you can see them and guide them unlike steroid hellfire which still has hellfire issues.
I have bind for that. You can click it all the day but maws will still detect launch and give more than enough time to dodge.
Dodged them by randomly tweaking on zulu few days ago.
On a side note, dont you think that staying that far from heli (if we are still talking about 15-20km strikes) would probably make you less efficient at ground strike? It might give your enemies more time to hide or intercept munitions meant for them.
I’ll bite into this terrible math you’re doing once again. Everyone else disregard as it has no real place in game or in real life
damage of “10” means to you “15kJ” of energy
if we solve for mass from KE = 1/2mv^2
Its: m = 2KE/v^2
If we plug in our numbers
m = 2x15000/ 1100^2
That comes out to 0.025kg “per fragment” which if we go by count of 32 is 0.8kg which is still more than 0.36kg of ENTIRE SHELL MASS
Please stop spreading “russian bias” FUD by bad math that is irrelevant to real life or game because as you can see NATO ordinance also breaks your idea of how physics work
Cool. This isn’t a topic for discussing helicopters, so you can shove your complaint where the sun don’t shine. Thanks.
The difference isn’t that big, as long as the pilot isn’t a total ‘apple’.
Fair point. But it still doesn’t make up for the fact that the MKM has to fight S1s, and the 30SM doesn’t.
is this a troll or just ragebait?
if i would have to choose between Su-30SM and Su-30MKM, i would obviously go for the MKM thx to the improved RWR.
if u didn’t know atp of the gameplay, RWR is what determinates if u’re still flying in a straight line or 90º to the ground in a spinning wall.
Funny how theres no “Cas player has to play the game” complaints just because the SPAA is russian.
Great idea, add weapons that will hard-counter non-Pantsirs, while also not really hurting the Pantsir at all
Certainly a better idea than having a game where only 1 missile is properly strong against SPAA
For like the Gajillion time.
The problem isn’t that a super strong AA is added(Good thing if everybody gets that). The problem is that a super strong AA is added to a single nation, a nation that didn’t need it at all since they already had the best SACLOS AA in the game anyway.
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No.
The solution is to solve the problems that led to the introduction of the new Pantsir:
Nerf helis (give them proper IR and radar signatures and nerf (L)DIRCM) and buff non-Pantsir anti air vehicles
Oh, and add better blufor SHORADs
How so?
Russia had the best anti DIRCM AA before(Pantsir S1), now they got an upgrade of it.
Certain nations have literally 0 tools to deal with the Mi-28NM + KH-38 combo. Israel and Japan both have nothing to shoot down the Mi-28NM. Germany is absolute CBT with the Flakrak, no need to explain why.(IRIS can’t hit the Mi-28NM)
Mi-28NM kills AA, open up the way for KH-38 carriers to wipe out what’s left of your team.
Go look at REDFOR top bracket sim winrate. They had 73% for an entire month after the LMUR was added. Why? Because CAS is much more prevalent there since you can first spawn it coupled with nobody diluting the RU CAS.
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Sure those are of course better options but neither nerfing helis nor buffing bluefor SPAA makes Gaijin money. Adding new EW planes with HARMs does.
Sadly thats quite a short list
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Adding (H)ARMs will only lead to GRB further deteriorating and Gaijin adding even more powerful anti air vehicles, which potentially includes a USSR/Russian AA that outperforms blufor AA yet again
While again, the Pantsir won’t really be bothered at all
Do you want the situation to improve or do you want to continue this cycle of imbalance?
This is definitely one of the best solutions, couldn’t agree more
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Did you even read his post? He’s agreeing with you lmao. He’s saying that Gaijin isn’t going to do it because this cycle of imbalance followed by EW and HARM will bring more cash.
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That’s literally the attitude that leads to problems like the new Pantsir.
We have to make sure that Gaijin starts balancing the game instead of supporting this CAS v SPAA Arms Race by asking for better CAS
Point out where I did.
You are now at the stage of imagining things that didnt happen so you can justify your opinions.
Again, read, even if it is apparently very difficult for you.
The first screenshot was the message FROM ANOTHER PERSON (which is now the second time I am telling you this).
Where exactly did I claim that it did?
Again, I literally just wrote down the calculation that the OTHER PERSON made to come to the 105kg value, which would be VERY CLEAR TO YOU if you had read literally anything before going absolute ham on things that I never said.
The penetration value for the 30mm PMC308 isnt that far off either
(fragments are 1.24g of tungsten-alloy irl, alum alloy has RHA modifiers of either 0.32x or 0.5x → Armour | War Thunder Wiki)
Again, read who said what before throwing a tantrum and then starting to cope with you “muh everyone claims russian bias” stuff on literally every post.
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That’s not an attitude, he’s just saying the truth. You think Gaijin cares about this topic?
Gaijin will do what Gaijin always does. They’ll add what creates hype and money, even if balance is in the gutter because of it. BVVD said it best during his latest video QnA:
‘We will continue exactly on the same path because people play the game. If people weren’t happy with it, they would stop playing War Thunder.’
Not word for word what he said but that was the meaning.
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