The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

Jobless, how will other countries react to NLOS laol, fnf, arh munitions with okay range. Not to mention there are 18 of them. if you think this will be balanced in any way you’re probably not thinking straight

BUK is ass. Im not gonna deny it, i despise playing it as its bogged down by numerous issues.
However, if you are in a pantsir, SLM, NASAMS, Flarakrad, ADATS, literally anything and you CANT move few meters to the side after youve seen an F15 drop a metric ton of “SMALL” radar signatures and dipped, then you should not play SPAA.
In fact if you dont have the common sense to think “ok thats a lot of small bombs, i can chuck a missile to intercept one to be able to tell if its SDB or spice and if its SDB i will just move a tad bit to the side so that they all miss” then you should genuinely reconsider playing this game, because it takes minimal amount of brain capacity to put 2 and 2 together.

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Ever heard of a the keybind called ‘toggle laser designator’? Also maws doesn’t detect until maybe 2-3 km. goodluck reacting in time against that.

The normal pantsir can actually go against kh-38 quite easily

ever heard of not playing like an NPC?
it works wonders.

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You can still move sure, but im saying that most anti airs arent gonna be able to move far enougj where they wont get killed by someone in-game or you end up getting gunned down because you gotta manage 3 vehicles.

God damn, bro snapped.

Uhm because adding new stuff thats more advanced is how Gaijin makes money? I doubt the game would have been very successful if we went from WW2 only backwards towards WW1 vehicles. The addition of LDIRCM for almost all trees was one of the better balance decisions Gaijin made, only having these things in 3 tech trees would have been way more broken.

Yeah because that means your entire game performance is reliant on being on russias team.

Have you seen SIM winrates lately?

Excuse me but whos the absolute loser flagging this

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Yeah, so can the normal SAMS.

Its not like its hard for anyone to intercept them, its just if they react to them in time

Which is precisely the point why it matters that the MTs are more than twice as fast as the next competitor

I was talking about the AGM-179, which is why I mentioned the Hellfire with a 20 km range, but anyway.

What am i supposed to do when people spread misinformation and FUD.

Its like people complaining about KH-38MT ignoring JAGM-MR in game

If they removed Kh-38s

Stopped listening to players who want small ass maps then cry a river when their long range SAMS cant long range

And then players actually understood that Russias planes dont bring half the ordinance U.S planes do, so the NATO doesnt gotta worry about devoloping a vehicle for that, meanwhile Russia did because NATO brings pretty much way more.

I think it would be a step in the right direction.

Also keep in mind that low flying munitions are useless because most of the maps dont allow it, so why ask to add it?

Yes, it turns the Apaches that have it into the only helicopter in the game that can’t be shot down by another helicopter, but can shoot down other helicopters yet nobody mentions this

Fair

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Doesn’t make a difference atp

Yeah and if my grandma was covered in cheese and pickles shed be a hamburger. Removing the 38 is never going to happen, because the ensuing meltdown of the russian playerbase would make chernobyl look like a normal weekend.

Thats not the problem with western SAMs atm, they hardly hit their current max ranges rn due to shitty modeling anyway. Bigger maps would not benefit the current arsenal of non russian CAS weaponry in the slightest.

Low flying munitions are useless due to their implementation either without loal so they lose lock instantly and fly into nirvana or because of them being restricted to IR only despite having GNSS as well.

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Please note that larger maps do not benefit either side in terms of efficiency or anti-air capabilities