The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

when it was released, F-15E was way better than it’s russian counterpart (Su-27SM), and…oh, what’s this?
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yeah i feel this kinda proves that.
the F-15E was a beast when it was released cuz AIM-120 didn’t have the nerfs Gaijin gave it after that time, and yet Su-27SM is somehow better even with worse missiles, RWR and less countermesures?

oh yeah, F-15E is now 14.0, so here u have the 13.7 F-15, performing same/worse
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Well, since last update the N011R has gotten 8DL targets as to before it was 4, just like the MKM, MKM still better most of the time, especially grb

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yeah but looks like somebody doesn’t want to admit it or it’s just too blind to see it.

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Then give me some reasons why instead of just saying it lmao.

I gave you an entire essay and you’re too stuck up and lazy to even quote anything I said and give a counterargument.

Let me correct myself, you quoted 1 thing out of all of that, based on what I’m currently seeing.

MKM

30sm

But su30mkm still “Way better”

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btw Su-30MKM is somehow lighter than Su-30SM.

So let me get this straight.

You’re implying that we can take everything the U.S presents at face value and anything Russia gets added to the game not at all, or downplay what they and they only present.

If I were to give a more fair evaluation, sice apparently the Patriot can’t miss but has been seen missing, along with the Pantsir system. All SAMs in game should have a probability to miss it’s target.

Brings me back to the whole argument with the 2a42 30mm cannon on the BMPs/Terminator. Yes it shouldn’t be lazer accurate high rpm at range, but that’s every autocannon irl, as in-game every weapon is pixel perfect on the dot.

So why should only the Russian version have recoil applications applied and everything else remain immune?

The F-15E is also played in GRB, statshark data is unable to discriminate macro stats from different gamemodes. Not to mention planes death ratio in GRB are significantly higher due to SPAAs.

Do your test, try looking out for the F-15E’s GRB “stats” in statshark.

I yet have to see a Russian player dumb enough to bring an Su-27SM to GRB for CAP purposes. You only bring a 27SM to spade it if you’re lucky enough to find targets.

btw, I still have to remember this was your first point when I seriously disagreed with you on something.

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i mean, Su-27SM is good for GRB, 4 Kh-29TDs are obviously better than 6 subsonic Mavericks.

the stats say how many ground kills did each plane do.
u can see how the F-15E did around 15M kills while the Su-27SM barely did 1.5M.
couldn’t that be enough to determinate which one is better in that case?

EVIL SMILING DOG

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For the GRB BR the 27SM gets (12.7), you literally don’t pick the Su-27SM if you have any Su-30 by missile count, even you can take the Su-25SM3 with 4x X-38s which are genuinely better.

Again, anyone who prefers the SM over the Su-30SM/SM2/Su-25SM3 is objectively wasting a slot and there’s no point to deny it.

You realize ground kills (and even air) in statshark include AI targets? God, you’re arguing like if you were a level 70.

Barely. It’s still behind everyone else while sitting at high br

for anyone who doesn’t have Su-30SM yet, it’s a good and probably the only option.

LEONARDO DICAPRIO

SPEED SCREAMING

talking about AI units, idk if it’s a bug but this lasts days while i was playing ARB i noticed now air AI units count as “air kills”, like if they were aircrafts controlled by real players and not AI.
idk if Gaijin already fixed that or now they actually count as “air targets destroyed” instead of “AI units destroyed”.

one entire month of f15e dominance !?!?!?!?!? WOW that mustve SUCKED

Would rather have a maws and lws instead of a slightly better radar