The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

You’re right! “Gaijin meta boy”
These players don’t know any better to win the game lol.

i mean, the only SPAA that got added to the game in this update was the russian Pantsir SM-SV, not a single other SPAA for any other nation, and they just added more even more broken planes like the J-15T with like +2000kgf each engine than the Su-30SM2 and PL-12As.

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Like you said, just follow the meta lol

idk if u’re mocking me but just to be sure
YOU ARE CRINGE

That’s just wrong, it only doesn’t notify them of a being tracked, searching and launching still gives a warning.

The radar mode does, the IRST doesn’t.

Wrong, I just tested myself, even if you enable irst mode, they still get a launch warning, they only don’t get a track warning, you don’t even have to lock them with either radar or irst in order for them to get a launh warning.

With irst mode enabled you also still get search pings, as the search radar itself doesn’t have IRST, that’s only for a few ground radars, such as the ozelots radar. they only have IRST search.

Conclusion: irst mode only makes lock warning go away, the rest stays
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War Thunder is simply a cyber masturbation device for Russian weapons, allowing them to forget their incompetence in reality.

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I think the more advanced RWRs are able to detect the command guidance transmissions from the SPAA to the missile

Spoiler

RWR
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I would not be relying an the search radar to find helis given they will mostly be hovering and filtered out by the PD filter, which is why Gaijin need to fix the rotor PD return, you might be better off turning it off to not give away your presence, or at least only using it in short bursts.

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It’s been a feature since the AN/APR-25

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Sadly I don’t have as much time to play the game, espcially top tier to get the proper vehicles and talk about them.

Can agree on that.

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Sadly, true. And the vehicles and armaments for Russia have increasingly less to do with any real vehicles that might share similarities. They are what GJN dreams up and wishes they were rather than what actually exists.

Using your logic

Those videos of the Patriot missing multiple targets upon firing sure shows their “incompetence” in reality.

Oh but wait, all the NATO players of this game time and time again claim everything they have is better by default then any Russian counterpart.

There are no westerm similarities because the west focused on SAMS…

You keep claiming they “dream” these things up when this system has been in service and existed for quite a while.

Maybe you need to go look at DCSs Pantsir and see how viable and dangerous it is in that game too. Or are you also gonna come back and say the devs of that sinulator have Russian bias lmao

You people are being intentionally obtuse because it’s to your own benefit. And no, a lot of the systems do NOT exist in the way they do in War Thunder. The new Pantsir is just one of several examples. Gaijin takes already exaggerated Russian claims, then adds some more on top to make them even stronger. While IRL most of these systems have been absolutely crushed and utterly failed.

And it’s not ONE or TWO things. It’s a whole host of vehicles, ammunition and other things all crammed into Russia. As of right now.

  • Russia has the best SPAA, and it isn’t close. Once again. One that performs to a degree it never has IRL, where most of them are gone by now and any time they were tested they failed, badly.

  • Russia has the best Helicopter, with magic DIRCM. Which they got before anyone else got a similar system.

  • Russia has the best Heli launched FAF missile. And it isn’t even close. One that literally has 4x the lofting values of NATO or other nations ATGMs alongside with being nothing like it’s IRL counter part. And yes the lofting values are intentional and contribute massively to performance.

  • Russia has the best fixed wing CAS, and once again it’s not even close.

  • Russia has the best fixed wing launched FAF air to ground missile. A missile that likely doesn’t even exist and is entirely fictional. Meanwhile western missiles such as the Brimstone were absolutely gutted because “they’d be too strong.”

  • Russian top tier tanks have been given the absolutely highest fire rate GJN could find anywhere, alongside with some other generous changes. Meanwhile other nations suffer from artificially nerfed armor and are firing vastly slower than they should. Hell the PUMA can be 50cal’d.

  • Russia has the STRONGEST navy in game both coastal and blue water. Which makes absolute sense, since many of their ships are basically made up, and GJN gave them absurd values. Meanwhile the Roma doesn’t even get it’s proper armor.

  • Stuff like the Yak-9k exist at much lower BR.

At any point where GJN can put their finger on the scale, they do. And they’ve been doing for quite some time. It’s only recently that it has escalated beyond all reason and moved firmly into the realm of propaganda at top tier.

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With what proof? People that constantly say this only resort too destroyed vehicles and videos and show no concrete proof of its preformance throughout history. Theres even a video on YouTube of the Pantsir effeciently taking out multiple targets shot at it if I can find it, since clearly everything is “made up” about it.

You know why? Its because of doctorine, air superiority wasnt their focus and to counter NATO they focused heavily into anti-air defenses. Again just saying “theyve been crushed” without actually presenting or finding its preformance throughout time is stupid. Everyone just says “they got crushed” because of videos they see on youtube.

I dont disagree with you completely on the helicopters and russian cas.

The Yak9k doesnt speak for the entire U.S tech tree at that br that carries bombs on pretty much every plane, thats players exaggerating for something that is also their own fault. The APHE the Yak-9k fires is strong, but thats all APHE in the game at that tier. Gaijin did a vote for realistic APHE changes that dont one shot everything, but nope playerbase was like “I wanna one shot everything wah, wah, wah” so they kept it. So look at the consequences of your actions when APHE on certain vehicles preform strongly.

Oh but then they want APHE on just the Yak-9k adjusted and everything else with APHE not to be touched because clearly “Russian bias” was the problem.

They aren’t exactly firing on tactical aircraft, are they?

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Get zulu’ed losers




Sm sv prob died as soon as spawn protection ended

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Whats your point? The Pantsirs were designed to protect SAMS first and foremost, their main missles are still able to engage aircraft.

Thats like me saying that western SAMS “dont fire exactly on munitions” since theyre primarly designed to intercept aircraft.

Helicopters do this to everyone lmao

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