yeah maybe if youre gonna intercept some bombs, other than that you need to aim it yourself if you want to score kills on aircraft.
As far as I know we dont have a counter to radar guided ATGMs other than shooting it down, so as a tank it would be pretty annoying to deal with those.
Lots of things were added to a single nation in one update before they had a competent counterpart. They just cant stuff everything in one update and people also dont want to wait for new stuff.
The main issue that annoys me is that the devs balance a vehicle mainly throught player stats and not how fair it is to play it.
They could also start to model the RCS of missiles properly, (e.g. the Harpoon for example should be ~ 0.15m^2) to reduce the range they they are detected. to give Faceted designs a much reduced detection range in order to provide an intermediary step.
Multi-spectral smoke exists that can block mmW, and Gaijin can always limit how many mmW Brimstones you can take on a plane, it’s not impossible to balance and the new SAMs can make quick work of any Brimstone, they are not that fast.
They don’t even really do that with aircraft we have jet and bigger jet. The RCS of a Rafale should be much smaller than a Su-30/F-15 yet the Radar always finds them equally (more so in air rb when we are detecting aircraft at 70-80km away.
Game needs a huge amount of changes to the mechanics
whats the counter to 48 intercptors + 12 hypersonic missiles + guns as a plane and heli?
Ru mains were used to the pantsir being the best at everything and very easy to use, so the second they got a vehicle that requires 2 brain cells to use they couldnt perform good in it.
Yeah the bukk is harder to use than the sky sabre or irist, and its tads radar is ass, but ive barely seen them use the telars radar, even though its one of the best in the game. They can literally substitute the MAIN downside of it and they refuse to do so.
it seems that ussr players constantly need all the haldholding they can get with all the OP stuff gaijin is feeding them
I wouldn’t mind it if every other nation got an equivalent and it lost its intercept missiles. As of right now it is virtually impossible to overwhelm, has guns for close range and crazy missiles for long range. This is the first time I’ve ever seen a single vehicle genuinely be a full denial-of-area that couldn’t be countered at close range.
You can’t do standoff against it (long range munitions can be intercepted, even the AGM-84 terrain following is just not effective).
You can’t pop up (guns).
You can’t overwhelm it (48 missiles + ammo box).
How are you supposed to counter this? Even if you do, they can spawn another, can bring BUKs, and get a guaranteed Pantsir for free for a backup.
It either needs to be removed or nerfed horribly. As a matter of fact, remove the regular S1 from the free backup vehicles. No nation has an equivalent for free.
If not that, then CAS needs to have counters. The USA has literally no conventional counter to it as of right now.
it seems i didnt word it well, i meant what is a plane going to do against a platform with 48 missiles to intercept all its munitions, 12 hypersonic missiles to pressure it from long range and 4x 30mm guns for close range
well I wouldnt compare both missile and vehicle, a pantsir requires some skill and knowledge to use. Although it seems like a one man army it can still be overwhelmed and destroyed, most pantsirs dont die cuz they ran out of missiles they die cuz they cant deal with everything at once.
yeah thats exactly what im saying, the more braindead users bring down the statisticswith their premiums the more stuff theyre gonna get
The new Pantsir is problematic, but this doesn’t change that CAS is way too powerful and the new Pantsir is the result of CAS constantly getting better weapons
