Why, now that it’s already 20 March 2026, are there still people, I mean there are still people, arguing with AlvisWisla, who is a Gaijin internet troll army, + 1000 Gaijin social credit for every comment he posts, can’t we just ignore him?
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Look like You not only game skill issue . You know nothing about world either
xD
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Im going by what people watching the live said and id also say that commenting specifically on the stats of the BUK and the wish for everyone to have competetive SPAA indicates the reason for the addition of the SM SV. And even if it doesnt for you then its still a questionable addition balance wise due to the reasons above.
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BVVD is one dude, the project lead. He cannot dictate how quickly all of the gears of Gaijin work.
Maybe I’m spoiled from the super slow development of DCS that is literal molasses compared to War Thunder development, so I am a tad empathetic toward those that put in 40+ hours of work every week to provide us what is honestly a miracle; A flawed miracle that needs hundreds to thousands of fixes, but a miracle none-the-less.
And no, blocking a tech tree from getting SPAA would be antithetical to the dream of all nations getting sufficient air defense.
All nations means no exceptions.
The new vehicle teams are not the bug fixing teams.
The new vehicle teams are making the next SPAA for other tech trees as we speak.
The bug fixing teams are pulling their hair out trying to figure out what’s causing and how to fix bugs that stress them and us out.
There is a lot of passion here, in this topic, in this project, in this community.
We have these biocomputers that allow us to articulate great positions without assuming everyone’s malicious, and there’s an irony in assuming everyone’s malicious.
So let’s do our best to articulate our thoughts in an assertive civil manner.
@kasakala
You do realize that Basher and I are saying the same things?
Your false accusation is against Basher as well.
Basher, myself, and hundreds if not thousands of others are correct on this issue.
There’s a lot of nuance is all.
If you genuinely believe it is less effort to reduce the multipath of ARH SAMs (one value in the file) than to model a whole new russian SPAA then I do have some concerns. Show me where gaijin has made any real effort to improve the AA performance of other nations.
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Means BEST CAS team get a BEST SPAA, Defense Russia CAS have more difficulf. Because Pantsir SM can kill any other team’s jet try stop Russia CAS
Okay?
So why is it most often 1 nation and not the other 9?
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If you really hate CAS ,Then why about you not hate Best CAS Team ?
Id say the biggest problem isnt even the quality of russian SPAA but the sheer quantity. 2 12.7 SPAA and the by far best 12.0 SPAA as a free spawn is just an insane amount of potential protection against air threats while all others rely on none to max. 1.5 competetive SPAA at top tier.
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for a few nations I dont think they really even get 1 at the moment
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Lemme edit real quick
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If Russia team CAS get performance nerf ,I can acceptable these SPAAs
This problem mainly still Russia CAS so unfair
Russia CAS shooting NATO SPAA sooo easy to NATO CAS shooting Russia SPAA
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Yep. I could almost… almost accept the performance of the first Pantsir when the soviets genuinely had some of the weaker CAS. Then they got KH-38MT which rendered all other SPAA redundant with the only counter being… the Pantsir. Its only mitigation was a weak platform.
Then they go on a very long rant about why adding Brimstones would be too OP… In the same update they add the Su-34… With KH-38MTs… in a greater quantity… on a decent platform… without adding a single SPAA counter to the SU-25SM3…
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Okay? Japan and USSR have the best CAS.
Enemy team have their own air defense systems to deal with Japanese and Soviet CAS.
So how is having air defense relevant to their CAS?
Of course LDIRCM needs to be fixed, and ideally we end helicopters’ immunity to radar locks.
@Morvran
This is all of the top SPAA [12.3 - 12.7]:
USSR got their 2nd. USA had their 2nd months prior.
War Thunder’s update system is a “release as ready” system, meaning unless it’s for the theme [such as AMRAAMs, or mult-vehicle systems] of the update, they do not hold onto vehicles for a specific update and release them as they’re ready.
It’s a rolling door development cycle.
So yeah, other SPAA other tech trees will get weren’t ready for last major update. Many might not be ready for June’s either.
Development takes time, and we should apply pressure; at the same time we need to understand that any pressure that is actioned will take anywhere from 6 months to 2+ years to action depending on the scale of the subject being pressured.
Any pressure today on this topic will be actioned around Winter 2026-2027 at the earliest, but it’s likely to have no effect because they’ve already indicated they’re working on more SPAA systems, and we know from “definitely not leaks” that Patriot and others are in development.
Sure it does! But it’s the responsibility of gaijin to apply that development time responsibly to avoid major imbalances. Instead they choose to develop russian superweapon after russian superweapon instead of making comparatively trivial changes to western kit (again, bringing up sky sabre as an example) which would literally fix the issue??? Russia wasn’t exactly struggling in the SPAA department anyways.
There are bluewater ships, coastal ships, helicopters, tanks, fixed-wing, and 10 tech trees.
There are bombers, fighters, strike aircraft, SPAA, TD/SPG, MBT, light tanks, IFVs, torpedo boats, battleships, destroyers.
If you gave everyone 1 vehicle in all 5 categories, and in all of the listed 11 sub-categories, that would take about 2.6 years at the current 42 average vehicles per update.
There are like 15 toptier SPAAs
All that’s needed to fix most of them is
- give helis a radar signature
- make DIRCM not magic
- reduce multipath
all of which can be done with single value changes in the files.
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ARH MSL Jet also is defense CAS good method
Pantsir SM very good can stop NATO ARH MSL jet
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No. USSR got their third.
They Got the Pantsir S1 2 years before any other nation got anything even close.
Its performance is still closer to that of the “new” SPAA the CS/SA5 or Spyder (before this update) than it was ever to the ADATS or Otomatic, etc
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This a right
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