The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

Alvis, you know exactly which nerf he's refering to.


i’m straightup blocking you, I can’t bear how fake you are anymore. @Alpharius11348 should do the same.

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@PyroAddict
I only know because @Alpharius11348 responded to to my question, and helped me learn something I didn’t know previously.

I’m unsure why you’re upset; Namely after Alpharius and I are both saying the AIM-120 got nerfed.

Literally 5 minutes between a post informing me about the nerf, and your post claiming I knew it…
Yes, I knew it… for 2 - 4 minutes prior to your post because Alpharius helped me.

@Alpharius11348
Thank you for informing me about the nerf, because I didn’t know about it previously.

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sooo… is it a nerf or a buff? i see numbers going up and down, in specific things that shouldn’t go up, and specific things that shouldn’t go down (drag and max fin AoA at least).

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It’s a nerf, cause fin AOA matters for maneuvering.

I didn’t know of the nerf prior to today [or at least remember…], and I don’t know if it’s accurate or inaccurate.

Either way, I want the AIM-120 to be as accurate as possible.

It is a nerf to WVR (most conventional scenarios for the meta), and a subtle buff to BVR (least conventional scenarios for the ARH meta).

Anyway, I don’t want to derail further, this is what Alvis’ idiocy and dishonesty generates.

oh it’s accurate, it’s accurately an explosive F-104: 1 engine 0 maneuverability 4 useless canards.

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that is downplaying how terrible the bmpt is, ruins the entire 10.3 11.3 br

Shock my post got removed. Literally on topic and everything. Exactly the problem i talk about when talking of the blatant russian favouritism with this new panstir, and the previous updates with bmpt, and silent buffs to russian tanks. These last few updates have 100% proved gaijin are trying their best to get russian stats on top again. but you get the diehard defenders that report posts for no reason and they remove it because it doesnt fit Gaijins narative.

In comparison, Western Typhoons get artifically nerfed with brimstones because they would be “too op” is just one example yet Russia gets KH38, only fully modelled fnf heli missiles, and the best AA lineup in the game which can fully counter practically everything thrown at them (depending if theyre good players or not as usually ussr players are the worst in the game imo).

This panstir was completely unnecessary but they needed something to buff russia once again.

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@PyroAddict
What is dishonest about asking for information about, then calling out the AIM-120’s nerf?

???
T-90M still has horrible reverse and 7.0secs reload, just like T-80BVM has 6.0/6.4secs reload and mid/good mobility like always.

He’s pointing out their trunnions and its respective volumetrics (guessing).

russian players are some of the best in the game, u just need to see how many people that never played Russia in their entire lives aim for the UFP instead of the LFP.
russian tanks require skill (except the BMPT), having horrible/meh reverse at toptier is not good at all, paired with non-existant gun depression and long reloads, it’s not ez to play with them.

it is

I just spawn more tanks and overwhelm enemy forces.
New SPAA can’t win against a tanks & SPAA only team after all.

It’s why while I support new anti-CAS measures in War Thunder, it doesn’t impact me negatively because I’m not a CAS main anymore.

all tanks in the game have trunnions now, and i didn’t see any volumetric issues with russian tanks, they still have the same unpenetrable UFP and easily penetrable LFP as always.
tbh the only problem of russian tanks is the imaginary (or real, idk) plate around the autoloader that catches spall and does zero damage to the ammo.

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watch them add r-37 cause russia clearly is too weak with r-77-1

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My guy either you are ragebaiting or are strongly biased towards one nation…

Russkie players don’t need to pinpoint weakspots to shoot… they can tank a lot of damage and a lot of the times have small shadow buffs…
The Era armor can tank apfsds their mobility is fine and in combination with how many they can spawn in they can flood the batlefield with awesome CAS cover and air defense bubble shielding them from any incomming missiles

with the addition of this pantsir you can fully intercept a full load of mavericks / slamm-ers without any problem

yeah thats right, i never saw anything in patch notes in it but one day i just couldnt pen the breach in any aspect frontally.

@Flanker_Thunder Oh wow bad reverse speed and a 7 second reload? without spending GE to max crew the german ones have 6.9 seconds, and as soon as you lose your loader that goes higher while russian tanks stay the same with autoloader. i know thats the way theyre made but simply complaining about reload speed is pointless considering western tanks if they arent one shot and actually survive, lose the loader then you have way longer. Looking at your posts, you are the example i was talking about that defend gaijins stupid additions to buff russia simply because you want to rage bait.

Russia in my opinion has the most survivable tanks in the game, and every update more and more nations get nerfed while russia keeps on just getting better and better. They have the best all round everything right now (tanks, air and Heli, i dont play naval) yet they keep getting betetr things while everyone else is nerfed for “realism”.

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ofc, just shoot to the Leopard 2A7V’s turret, the composite screens will obviously don’t tank the whole 3BM60.
ofc, just shoot the Abrams SEP V2’s UFP, it will obviously don’t ricochet ur shell.

u need to aim for weakspots to destroy NATO tanks just like u need to destroy russian tanks, that’s basic toptier knowledge.

they can’t, it’s just poor aim, ur shot can’t just dissappear when aiming for an armor plate that doesn’t even have composite like the Abrams’ LFP.

RNG prob, not always.

are u kidding me?

ground? 2 MBTs with completely different playstyles, which means it’s hard to play while keeping in mind what u have to do with each one, instead of just repeating the same process with copy-paste Leopards/Abrams.
air? the only thing they have that’s point & click adventure. all Flankers should lose access to Kh-38 except Su-34 and 25SM3 for obvious reasons. Mi-28NM needs to lose 4 LMURs and get it’s LDIRCM fixed.

and u couldn’t with the old Pantsir? or an IRIS-T? or any SPAA? Mavericks and SLAMM-ERS are slow and that’s why they’re so ez to intercept. no matter the SPAA u will always be able of intercepting 6 Mavs/84Hs.

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There's quite the difference between western and soviet trunnions.

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If you hit the trunnion of a soviet tank, your dart has a reasonable chance to ricochet or the geometry of the trunnion eats it.

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