now u’re talking my language, elegant bro.
manners from a random in WT, something i didn’t expect nowdays, they’re all crybabies that talk about things they don’t have till somebody who actually experienced what they didn’t comes to explain everything without results cuz everyone share the same braincell.
It’s also attached to the Hull, which it where it is rests on a splined Key (of which isn’t included on the module), and conduits that transfer power.
And with the description of the intent of the Turret baskets they should be included in the module.
What turret baskets contain
We want to note that important elements such as electrics and hydraulics are all located in and around the basket area and all provide some power to the drives and turret in different ways. These and other elements fill almost the entirety of a tank’s interior outside of the crew operating areas. The floor of the turret basket is not just a metal sheet to walk on, but instead houses all kinds of electrics and hydraulics with means to connect them to the hull.
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Because you can generally anticipate how something will perform by looking at it’s characteristics, not to mention tests run by people in custom battles on the dev server.
I do believe it does, as long as the target is locked by your radar.
Which are really good.
Which is an incredibly important capability that other nations are lacking in.
The problem isn’t just the cannons, it’s the combination of best in class (or just really good) missiles and cannons. Which means you can counter aircraft at range, at altitude, intercept their munitions, and shoot them if they attempt to hug the ground and strafe you.
I don’t resent USSR having such good SPAA, but rather that other nations lack the same. I believe it was a mistake for Gaijin to add it before rectifying this imbalance.
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Thanks!
While we do not see eye to eye on the issue I still hope to have a conversation where I try to get my view across and also see if I might be wrong.
it doesn’t look like it’s actually attached to the hull, just extremely near of it.
with this irregularities in the ground, the autoloader would need to have a very special shape to actually fit if it’s attached to the hull.
and if it was attached to the hull then it wouldn’t be able of turning, except it has some kind of electric wheels that make the autoloader turn with the turret all in one.
it looks like it has some kind of fabric or polymer below, or it’s just my bad perception and it’s just the shadow of the storage part xd
it has a very particular form, so it would be weird if it’s actually attached to the hull, except u tell me it has something below that makes it turn that i didn’t see or think about.
That’s because it’s attached to the turret…
Hey @Flanker_Thunder and @Metaltank1990, let’s heed @BasherBenDawg8’s advice and stay on topic, yes? This topic is about Pantsir SM after all.
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New Pantsir also has mini-LOSAT performance with the hypersonic missiles when Starstreak (actually proven to have secondary anti-light armor capability and has penetration estimates) is arbitrarily limited to 30mm max.
The missiles are essentially the exact same concept too. Pre-fragmented hollow metal body flying to hit/get near an air target. The only difference is the fuse timing.
It shouldn’t be so absurd to request gaijin be consistent with the performance of comparable warheads. Either STARstreak gets ~90mm penetration (40mm Bofors AP) or this thing gets a hard limit of 100mm penetration max like Starstreak in-game.
that’s a bad way to think about how good or bad something will be, it already happened many times, u can’t have an opinion about something that isn’t released to the public yet will perform in public, it always gets changes even before getting released (which u can’t see since dev server is only open from time to time, and the day it closes isn’t the day the update is released, which means devs could change something without u noticing).
maybe a good way but honestly they’re just chilling.
from what i have seen in videos and gameplays, it doesn’t, but maybe it does and it just works like the Starstreak HVM.
any SPAA with a cannon is good, u aren’t limited to any kind of distance like FlaRakRad and other missile only vehicles.
not gonna deny it, but honestly i don’t think giving NATO it’s respective equals will make it fair for them anyway.
Patriot is far from being as capable as SM-SV.
u mean removing Kh-38 from any plane that isn’t Su-34/25SM3, fixing turret baskets, fixing autoloaders, reworking mechanics, etc?
didn’t u say u were over with me?
I said i considered the argument over. Evidently you didn’t.
what about both shut up about the off-topic discussion we’re having and stick to the SM-SV?
The imbalance I was referring to was in terms of quantity and quality of SPAAs, and how filling gaps in other nations should be prioritized before adding more to USSR who is well served already.
That’s one reason why me and others reacted so negatively to the Pantsir SM, I simply don’t believe it was needed at this moment and the resources should’ve been spent on improving other nation’s SPAA situation first.
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it is not about the seeker but the speed of their flight… please just stop…
2. Yes they have lmur with correct flight path while other similar missiles don’t … btw why do you avoid the obvious and search some BS arguments?
aim-120’s worst fox 3 missile the new one sucks :)
japan is not part of NATO
oh btw mach 2 vs 0.8 … and that 0.8 faces new spaa with 46 missiles (with proxy as well) or the bigger ones with WITH PROXY FUSE
show proof… because what i usualy see is 4 guys leave after 1 death others fight but get steam rolled by russian tanks and even if we dont we get pounded with 2 russian cas players slinging kh-38 mt without any options to defend because there is usualy a mi-28 with lmurs nearby ;)
8 spices traveling slow vs few pancir s-1 (free) or the new ones with 46 missiles capable of shooting 4 at the same time… sure thing keep living with that tought…
SPICE 250s have a 2-3 business day flight time whereas you have like 20 seconds to take down kh38MT before they fold you
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20secs sounds like a fair amount of time for taking it down.
Not for every single NATO SACLOS system that can only engage one at a time… and the multi-vehicle SAMs miss 2/3 of the time.
- Brimstones exist
- old Pantsir was already able of launching 4 at the same time, it’s not anything new.
- the fact u don’t like russian doctrine about how to build a SPAA is not Gaijin’s problem.
Good luck surviving the 60 second flight time at 15km keeping the lase on a pantsir that can kill you 40km out.
If we had MMW brimstones i’d agree with you.
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