no, it’s not connected to the horizontal mechanism the T-72 and 90 use, but they’re “connected” to the turret via dorsal structure.
autoloader loads, turret basket turns*
why would something that loads projectiles block the traverse of the turret?
sure u have stopped.
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The lack of basic reasoning is just astonishing honestly
tell wtf basic reasoning u’re talking about.
u can’t say something that isn’t built to turn should block the movement of something that’s made to turn.
limiting it? probably since it’s heavy
but blocking it? no.
Anyways, pantsir. So gaijin opts to give the nation with the best CAS options the best SPAA for some reason.
I think it would have been somewhat okay if it was just an S1 with a better radar and whatnot (that search radar on the S1 was a real limiting factor sometimes) but 95Ya6M and TKB-1055 kinda ruined it.
Turret baskets have no function in rotating the turret. They serve only to stop the crew from jamming their legs into the hull. It is literally sheet metal attached to the turret.
Abrams’ loader being idle for 7512590 consecutive hours:
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-post pointing out serious gameplay/balance issues
-plenty upvotes from frustrated ppl who agree
-same as always enjoyers of overpowered vehicles starts to argue with everyone about everything
-mess & offtopics & cope & personal talking
-topic become about nothing and dies
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it would be easier if people just shut up and enjoy the game they decided by their own to play.
That is undermining several factors out of control of individual gamers. Yes, plenty of criticism is subjective, but there will almost always also be a notion of objective truth to some of it.
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Look. Imagine if you have a small motor, let’s say one from a toy/RC car. It’s spinning an axle around and connected to the axle is a wheel. You grip the axle firmly with a clamp and the wheel grinds to a halt.
The same logic applies to a turret that is mechanically connected to a autoloader cassette. The turret’s horizontal drive is not infintely powerful so if the autoloader structure is damaged or warped in some way so that it comes into contact with the hull floor or sides it may generate extra friction. The motor may not be strong enough to compensate for this friction so the turret may slow down or seize entirely depending on severity.
I hope this makes sense
Forgot how this topic is named. Uhhh… maybe “The lack of turret ring on t series is simply too strong”? Judging by replies it is named this way.
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i don’t deny Russia has somes strong points, but crying and claiming about them while not seeing the bad things is also a convenient critic to something u also don’t know about.
Pantsir SM-SV got released 2 DAYS AGO, and there’s already people complaining about it? the only SM-SVs toptier will have this first days will be from YTbers or mad psycopaths that spent like 10k GE in a TT vehicle.
it has no proxy fuze hipersonic missiles, same 4 30mm cannons as the old Pantsir/2S6, and a better radar, nothing new atp. the only “new” thing is that it has 48 goddamn missiles, which only work to intercept ordnance.
the main reason i see people complaining about russian SPAAs is that they have 30mm cannons, completely ignoring that other SPAAs from lower BRs also have 30/35mm cannons.
I arrived here after the topic was changed to turret drives and baskets.
I don’t know the reason why Gaijin decided to model turret baskets so unrealistically, but given that this implementation only negatively impacts non-soviet MBTs it could indicate some level of bias or intent to offset the balance between them.
u literally just explained in a more technical form what i said.
idk if u were trying to mock me or smth but thx ig?
u can’t call the turret basket a nerf when knowing how OP NATO tanks are.
mobility is amazing, best cannons in the game for Germany and USA, 4secs autoloader for Japan, and amazing armor for Sweden and Germany (italian Leo 2A7 too).
So do we agree that structural damage to the autoloader carousel could slow down or even block the turret’s ability to rotate if the damage is severe enough? I got the impression earlier that we didn’t
No, I am genuinely trying to communicate with you, otherwise I wouldn’t have written in so much detail.
i literally said it should limit the turret’s traverse (and i gave the example of 34º + destroyed autoloader = 12/8º as max traverse).
i guess u didn’t see that part.
people who don’t want to communicate write the same things with the same amount of attention to details as u.
Well there are other balance issues in the game than just turret baskets and autoloaders.
I recognize that nations other than USSR do occasionally get strong vehicles and even meta defining ones for a time, but I also believe there is something fishy about how USSR always has something that’s incredibly good or that has no parallels in nearly every vehicle category and most tiers.
Agreed
Everyone please keep this thread on topic, and only about the new Pantsir and relevant points of discussion with this thread going forward. We don’t want a repeat of the Kh-38MT thread…
If you’re going to be comparing nations and debating any bias to them, try to keep it limited to CAS and SPAA if possible as that’s the topic of this discussion. This isn’t a everything Russian bias thread, it mainly relates to the Pantsir and the elements of the game it apart of: being Air Support/Air Defense. Avoid going off topic by discussing MBTs, save that for other threads, and create said threads if they don’t exist already. There should be dedicated Russian bias threads, this one is meant to discuss the Pantsir exclusively so please keep it this way. Thanks
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