The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

hes just a ragebaiter

Thank you, AlvisWiala, for this very helpful informarion.

The only point in my comment was how ARH (mmW) Brimstones and JAGMs would be oppresive as they vastly ignore normal in-game smoke. My next comment was the result of my previous thinking, since we don’t have mmW, Gaijin, for balance, added Semi-Active-Laser Brimstones and separate IR and SAL JAGMs.

The quoted text was a direct, not as you think, joke on Gaijin’s upcomming updates.

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We dont think a Pantsir can shoot down 6 slow Anti Radiation missiles…

BUK will be the least effected SAM of you lose the Radar unit you can still use the 2 launchers.

IRIS-T/Skysabre/SAMP-T all die if the Radar unit is destroyed.

Russia with a mach 3.0 ARM no way an IRIS-T or Skysabre will be able to drive to avoid that.

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It was though and they have removed it on the Dev.

Adding modules that do nothing is not a nerf.

@Tackshooter
Your post can be interpreted as having raging bait in it; the act of insulting others [aka “raging” is the “rage” part of “ragebait”. I don’t think you’re doing that, but I do want to point it out so you’re made aware.

It’s funny how I say “Pantsir SM-SV is powerful”, and you claim that’s wrong… while then parroting my exact take, and thus agreeing with me that Pantsir SM-SV is powerful.

That’s the point, SPAA should be powerful. CAS should be shot into the ground
Play the ground vehicles & be more meta.

They just have higher skill floor/roof than the low skill OTAN, Trust?

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Those launchers have own radars as well.

I appreciate the clarification, & thank you.
I screwed up in my original post a bit & apologize.
I’ve removed the offending language, and added more information to the post.

They do but the emissions from the main search Radar will be stronger?

Maybe. You said:

So I was talking about situation where 2 telars left and tads is gone.

Yes because other systems you cannot do that.
Skysabre has been proven to be able to do the same

So to kill a well spaced BUK will take more than one missile

Indeed. Thats probably why there’s almost no air spawn vs Rus. It takes alot to take down a BUK complex. Then they spawn Pantsir SM-SV, Pantsir S1 is aviable as free reserve spawn as well. At the end its just overkill.

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If arh sams ever gets fixed people will understand why bul was getting called bias in dev, the kinematics on that thing are insane

BUK is very strong, hard to kill with guns and missiles not always killing it with those giant missiles not cooking off.

And while it is flawed the missiles are potent

BUK was getting overglazed in dev mainly becacuse of it’s range (which it will never reach in practical sessions) and the individual radars. It’s not OP by any means, sure it’s one of the better SAMS but only by a margin. Not enough to try and use it to undermine all the other vehicles.

You forget the best feature it has, speed.

Same thing with the ADATS lol

Yeah, but it takes time to get up to speed with such a large missile… hence why I said it’s not the best at close range

Yeah, it’s just that ADATS’ missiles don’t do M5 and ADATS doesn’t have 50, or so, missiles and ADATS doesn’t have AESA radar and…apart from this, they’re the same. :D

Obviously, but I don’t see the sense in pointing out “side affects” that may be on other vehicles, even if they are arguably worse.