Turret baskets have no function in rotating the turret. They serve only to stop the crew from jamming their legs into the hull. It is literally sheet metal attached to the turret.
Abrams’ loader being idle for 7512590 consecutive hours:
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-post pointing out serious gameplay/balance issues
-plenty upvotes from frustrated ppl who agree
-same as always enjoyers of overpowered vehicles starts to argue with everyone about everything
-mess & offtopics & cope & personal talking
-topic become about nothing and dies
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it would be easier if people just shut up and enjoy the game they decided by their own to play.
That is undermining several factors out of control of individual gamers. Yes, plenty of criticism is subjective, but there will almost always also be a notion of objective truth to some of it.
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Look. Imagine if you have a small motor, let’s say one from a toy/RC car. It’s spinning an axle around and connected to the axle is a wheel. You grip the axle firmly with a clamp and the wheel grinds to a halt.
The same logic applies to a turret that is mechanically connected to a autoloader cassette. The turret’s horizontal drive is not infintely powerful so if the autoloader structure is damaged or warped in some way so that it comes into contact with the hull floor or sides it may generate extra friction. The motor may not be strong enough to compensate for this friction so the turret may slow down or seize entirely depending on severity.
I hope this makes sense
Forgot how this topic is named. Uhhh… maybe “The lack of turret ring on t series is simply too strong”? Judging by replies it is named this way.
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i don’t deny Russia has somes strong points, but crying and claiming about them while not seeing the bad things is also a convenient critic to something u also don’t know about.
Pantsir SM-SV got released 2 DAYS AGO, and there’s already people complaining about it? the only SM-SVs toptier will have this first days will be from YTbers or mad psycopaths that spent like 10k GE in a TT vehicle.
it has no proxy fuze hipersonic missiles, same 4 30mm cannons as the old Pantsir/2S6, and a better radar, nothing new atp. the only “new” thing is that it has 48 goddamn missiles, which only work to intercept ordnance.
the main reason i see people complaining about russian SPAAs is that they have 30mm cannons, completely ignoring that other SPAAs from lower BRs also have 30/35mm cannons.
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I arrived here after the topic was changed to turret drives and baskets.
I don’t know the reason why Gaijin decided to model turret baskets so unrealistically, but given that this implementation only negatively impacts non-soviet MBTs it could indicate some level of bias or intent to offset the balance between them.
u literally just explained in a more technical form what i said.
idk if u were trying to mock me or smth but thx ig?
u can’t call the turret basket a nerf when knowing how OP NATO tanks are.
mobility is amazing, best cannons in the game for Germany and USA, 4secs autoloader for Japan, and amazing armor for Sweden and Germany (italian Leo 2A7 too).
So do we agree that structural damage to the autoloader carousel could slow down or even block the turret’s ability to rotate if the damage is severe enough? I got the impression earlier that we didn’t
No, I am genuinely trying to communicate with you, otherwise I wouldn’t have written in so much detail.
i literally said it should limit the turret’s traverse (and i gave the example of 34º + destroyed autoloader = 12/8º as max traverse).
i guess u didn’t see that part.
people who don’t want to communicate write the same things with the same amount of attention to details as u.
Well there are other balance issues in the game than just turret baskets and autoloaders.
I recognize that nations other than USSR do occasionally get strong vehicles and even meta defining ones for a time, but I also believe there is something fishy about how USSR always has something that’s incredibly good or that has no parallels in nearly every vehicle category and most tiers.
Agreed
Everyone please keep this thread on topic, and only about the new Pantsir and relevant points of discussion with this thread going forward. We don’t want a repeat of the Kh-38MT thread…
If you’re going to be comparing nations and debating any bias to them, try to keep it limited to CAS and SPAA if possible as that’s the topic of this discussion. This isn’t a everything Russian bias thread, it mainly relates to the Pantsir and the elements of the game it apart of: being Air Support/Air Defense. Avoid going off topic by discussing MBTs, save that for other threads, and create said threads if they don’t exist already. There should be dedicated Russian bias threads, this one is meant to discuss the Pantsir exclusively so please keep it this way. Thanks
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now u’re talking my language, elegant bro.
manners from a random in WT, something i didn’t expect nowdays, they’re all crybabies that talk about things they don’t have till somebody who actually experienced what they didn’t comes to explain everything without results cuz everyone share the same braincell.
It’s also attached to the Hull, which it where it is rests on a splined Key (of which isn’t included on the module), and conduits that transfer power.
And with the description of the intent of the Turret baskets they should be included in the module.
What turret baskets contain
We want to note that important elements such as electrics and hydraulics are all located in and around the basket area and all provide some power to the drives and turret in different ways. These and other elements fill almost the entirety of a tank’s interior outside of the crew operating areas. The floor of the turret basket is not just a metal sheet to walk on, but instead houses all kinds of electrics and hydraulics with means to connect them to the hull.
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Because you can generally anticipate how something will perform by looking at it’s characteristics, not to mention tests run by people in custom battles on the dev server.
I do believe it does, as long as the target is locked by your radar.
Which are really good.
Which is an incredibly important capability that other nations are lacking in.
The problem isn’t just the cannons, it’s the combination of best in class (or just really good) missiles and cannons. Which means you can counter aircraft at range, at altitude, intercept their munitions, and shoot them if they attempt to hug the ground and strafe you.
I don’t resent USSR having such good SPAA, but rather that other nations lack the same. I believe it was a mistake for Gaijin to add it before rectifying this imbalance.
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Thanks!
While we do not see eye to eye on the issue I still hope to have a conversation where I try to get my view across and also see if I might be wrong.
it doesn’t look like it’s actually attached to the hull, just extremely near of it.
with this irregularities in the ground, the autoloader would need to have a very special shape to actually fit if it’s attached to the hull.
and if it was attached to the hull then it wouldn’t be able of turning, except it has some kind of electric wheels that make the autoloader turn with the turret all in one.
it looks like it has some kind of fabric or polymer below, or it’s just my bad perception and it’s just the shadow of the storage part xd
it has a very particular form, so it would be weird if it’s actually attached to the hull, except u tell me it has something below that makes it turn that i didn’t see or think about.