The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

No it does not, I am actually supporting the argument that SOviet tanks are not as op as they are made to be infact they have inferior performance, I was stating the reason why a Soviet player can get high win rates, based on CAs usage.

Tanks are somehow not the deciding factor. Imho current matches were mostly decided by appearance of russian CAS. LMUR volley s and still Suchois with KH-38 potenitally turn games, they’re devastating. Mass killing / volley still happens. Maps are small, from the point of view of russian jets or helis, ground units are locked into tiny killboxes. With thermal view you immeadetly see most ground players, bit spacebaring and its decided. Then you dive to the deck to avoid incoming SAMs. KH-38 and LMUR are the only missiles which are very hard to intercept, the agressive lofting curve and speed bring them mostly into target.

Other nations’s ordnance is much easier to intercept.

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Depends on their loadout. Typically I’ve seen them run the TKB so the overwhelming strat is gone. Only good runs I’ve seen lately are close pop ups with either bomb tossing or a quick mavrick shot.

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Jesus man. Do you play the T80BVM? if its so much better how does it perform so much worse? which top tier MBTs do you have experience with?

It has a worse round, not even stabilized commander sights nor commander thermals, gets lolpenned through the turret roof by darts, has no reverse and no gun depression

Ok. Where then if not WR?

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Use fly low to the ground tactic below 50 m altitude and suprise the pantsir, they might not pick you up on radar. If they do its too late, hit the deck straight away and manuever to the enemy spawn point use a point of refernce on the map so you dont loose bearings.

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Well i mean removing all minor nations is pretty much removing 90% of all tanks so then its gonna be easy for the russian tanks to be among the best. Thats also pretty much why comparing NATO vs russian tanks is futile, because there is so much difference. The T80BVM compares completely differently to the T90M and on the NATO side its even more diverse.
russian tanks get preferential treatment where its possible, you are correct with that but that doesnt automatically mean that theyre the best it just keeps them in the game without being curbstomped every game. The main decider is russian CAS or to come back to the topic russian SPAA.

Choppers are much more of an issue currently than fixed wing CAS.

And if the Pantsirs are not sitting in spawn you are basically f’ed, you will never spot them first with a tgp while flying so low and fast, while you automatically pop up on thier radar and get clicked on with zero effort

You have a very limited understanding of what objectively means lol.

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The average KD in the game is 0.6 to 0.8… the general population of the game genuinely suck at the game. I’ll let you put 2 and 2 together on why tanks for major nations look bad at a community stat.

KD for April 2026. Did you have the right stats selected?

Low level close (<3 km) pop ups with 2-3 gnss bombs should work. Thats pretty much the only way I was getting consistent kills on av8b na

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Most of the time they are in spawn or around it, those that wonder around get picked out by tanks. It is rare that a panstir can hide somwehere in the middle of the map, the oposition is then made up of very weak players that allow for something like that to happen. At times they might be to the side but again you can pop back up to above 50ms observe and go down again until you pick them up. Similar strategy is also applied for Su players.

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K/D for april 2026: 1.35. Number 10 out of 24 MBTs total at 12.7. And yes, i am sure. Try sorting it by KD.

Do you still want to answer whether you have experience playing with the wheelchair as the chinese called it years ago when it was actually overperforming? or any other top tier tanks so you got first hand experiences to go by at least? Bc the overall stats arent holding up…

While true, that’s because minor nations barely see action. For example, there’s a part of the community on Reddit talking about how the Zero is OP and needs to go up but that’s because they don’t see it often and then try to turn fight it. Same kind of thing applies of if you don’t see a Merkavas ever, will you know how to take it out? Realistically, the Merkava 4M is easy to knock out but is #2 in KD and Mk 4 LIC was #4 for April.

objectively - in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions

They’re minorly worse in every regard but have ALL of the fields covered whereas other tanks are stronger is some suites but not others. Then again, you’re also in other chats talking about how the BMPT was fine at low BRs and shouldn’t get external ammo belts so… yeah.

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That is true but you have to consider that in the current environment non russian tanks just die a lot to CAS with russian tanks facing much less deadly CAS in general. So stats atm are inflated towards russia since we dont have a tank only game mode. But you can for example look at whats being played in tournaments and russian tanks are not popular there.

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Why…u mean the best players of this game arent playing the Better-than-everything-else T80BVM? Dont they want to win?
“i think the professional esports players got that wrong-they just overlooked that its simply better…”

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It may be because I run SPAA a good bit, but I don’t seem to have that much of an issue with CAS as top tier US. There’s the occasional match where it’s just dumpstered in moments but I’ve also had that happen as Russia. The real issue I have is just the Mi 28 with the LMUR. At least with the Su’s, I can see them coming and at least intercept the munitions in time. Most of my matches have been decided by spawn camping and ODL players being out in mass.

Which you didn’t do sadly.

I was totally fine with BMPT being pushed up to both 11.3 and 11.7.
You got your wires crossed.

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Abrams turret cheeks are far from bein excellent, gunner side can be penetrable by DM53 on right angle, at best its performs decent enough to stop incoming shells but why would you fire at cheeks when you can target massive turret ring weakspot and weak hull armor.

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Well in general turret cheeks are very good, you are right about the weak spot. There are hull down scenarios in which you cant spot and fire at hull or ring, few and far between but they happen. DM53 is a German round the debate here was about Soviet tanks vs NATo tanks.

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