LMUR got added in September which explains the normalization quite well.
Yes precisely that’s why the winrate swings are not due to the tanks as those are largely the same for the entire past year. And if you then compare the individual stats of the tanks and stuff like mobility, reload and penetration then its kinda clear that Russian tanks are not as good as the best tanks nato has to offer. But like I said the problem here is throwing together nato as if they were one tree with the same tanks. The argument is a completely different one depending on whether were comparing a 2A7V or an Ariete.
Considering you mentioned those, we’re now talking exclusively about T-90M.
Alongside common cons like reverse speed and gun depression, that thing has mediocre at best forward mobility as well. It has a 3-crew debuff paired with probably the longest reload time at top tier while firing one of the worst rounds there as well.
Your claim: “They are objectively better in every regard except reverse speed” simply isn’t supported by facts.
Him being aware or not changes nothing as in both states it’s still an opponent you have to kill.
People can get aware any time, so shooting them sooner rather than later is simply better.
Thanks for taking your part and giving one more example of where reload speed is really helpful to your overall performance.
Yeaaahhhhh…That must be why the best russian top tier tech tree tank, the T80BVM is #8 in kills per spawn of all 12.7 tanks statswise for april 2026 and #10 in Kills per death. Italy, Israel, Sweden, Germany, China, Japan (and GB in K/D with the Black Night) have tanks that overall perform better. Is that because the T80BVM is better? The sh…show starts if one of them makes it into cas, not with the tanks, If they manage to steamroll your team in a couple of minutes, which is basically what russian top tier tanks excell at, then they just had better players. not better tanks.
Literally every Nation despite France (which in the Leo2a6NL and Leclerc SXXI is basically on par with the t80bvm and US with the M1a2) has a tank that outperforms the best russian one in stats. The second 12.7 tank russia gets, the T90M sits at # 20 of 24 in K/S and #18 in K/D
Agreed, that’s why I look at KD instead for combat vehicles. I mean, they really are though. When I can play drunk like I was earlier and ended up top 3 of the team and one of the top fraggers for the match while blindlessly driving around, they’re pretty strong (I sure as hell have never gotten away with half the things I do while in the Abrams). Sure, it’s not the best at any one trait except armor but the fact it’s only barely worse in reload, the ammo is more than enough to counter almost anything frontally over a large majority of the tank (yes, cheeks are strong across NATO countries. Too bad like 90% of the maps are CQC forcing you to expose the hull over the LFP), only 5 mph slower, etc, it becomes a VERY well rounded tank.
Fair. Been trying to finish the TT again (used to have everything spaded) and it’s really just mind numbing how each Abrams is exactly the same.
Well it is one of the 3 top tier Russian MBTs, it is an advantage they get. Not a single Abrams gets one. And literally 5 mph slower (which given how most maps are CQC, doesn’t really matter), gun depression is manageable if you understand how to use terrain (turns out that’s what reverse sloping is for or learn the map and advance differently. It’s not like that isn’t a common trait with Russians since late war… oh wait). I’ll take a 3 crew with a consistent reload than one that could be 5 seconds if I spend money and increases to 10+ if I lose my commander or loader.
Everyone is an opponent to KO. That’s a strawman’s argument and you know it. It’s also a team-based game so tell mark the map and move on. Is it a valid complaint about how I’ve missed the same situation that I could have gotten if I was in the Type 90? It’s a 1.2 second difference if they just have max crew and 1.6 seconds if they are Expert. It would be different case if it was like a 5 second difference but that’s nothing.
You mean the one if all of their crew is alive and, as it is per real life tanks, the first shot matters? What is it Russian mains always say “Aim better”?
Which is really not all that special for the russian top tier tanks.
You can make a compelling argument that the russian top tier tanks are easier to play than most other tanks as in low skill floor low skill ceiling type but that doesnt automatically make them better tanks just maybe more useful in the hands of the bottom 30% of players.
Oh wow, gonna also casually forget to mention where it outperforms every 17 other MBTs at the BR it plays at for April 2026? it’s funny how it’s the same like 4 people going around every post going “BuT rUsSiA iSn’T oP” while also complaining when people try to do things like fix the TOW-2B to what it should be (seeing how it was done with paper math with wrong information and no supporting data)
Hold on NATO tanks aren’t free food 2A7s, STRVs, have just as good frontal armor if not better than T-series tanks, in addition to reverse speed and much better rounds. The M1A1 to M1A2 has excellent turret cheek armor yes a massive lower glacias week spot no argument there but they are quicker than soviet mbts and fire a better round in addition to their faster reload.
It will all depened on the situation you are in and the team you are on. If one team has two or 3 top nations on their team then the likely hood is that , that team will come out on top. Matchmaking is key in top tier, that can go either way.
You can make arguments for top tier CAS going towards the Soviet direction but not tanks. There is no evidence of Soviet tanks dominating this game, except several tanks that will end up costing you an amr and a leg. But France, Germany and a lot of premium US 6.7 vehicles are pretty much up there as well. Look at the AMBT 60 it is at 10.0, based on performance should it go up to 11.0? I dont think so.
You can’t simply mix all of the pros into one “tank” and say they’re the best. That’s ridiculous to say.
And literally with bad reverse speed which in CQC is something you don’t want to have.
This is actually funny.
You’re trying to equalize map marks with getting kills.
It is a valid complaint about reload speed, yes.
This is why that 4s reload speed is always brought up when talking about Type 90, as it’s definitely a good thing to have as it helps you in more situations that you can think of.
Oh wow, do i know you? Also I can’t remember one single time where i said “oh look russia isn’t op”. But anyways.
You said the tanks are objectively better in almost every regard. While they perform worse. Either youre struggling with wording what you actually mean or you’re just disingenous. Either they are better, which somehow, doesnt show in their statshark data of 1.3 million matches in april ooooor…its something else. Yes, they have an insane winrate, i never denied that…but why could that be? Its probably not their “insane performance”, which is on average worse than almost any other nations mbts? what could be the cause of them still having a winrate higher than all other nations and gets even more pronounced when checking SIM win rates…hmmmm what only could it be? If its not the tanks?? what else do people put in their lineups if they dont play one spawn andy that might help them win a match…hm. Can you think of anything?
Ignoring minor nations, the only other tank that gets reasonable gameplay numbers and does better is the Leopard 2A7V.
I mean… hand in hand? Seeing how most of the maps are CQC, the tank that has smaller spots to hit and kill is more than likely going to win the fight (obviously). I wouldn’t say they are overpowered if 1) they fought their own era of tanks with proper ammo or 2) actually got equivalent ammo generations. For example, the M1 105 and T90A being only 0.3 BR different. The M1 was retired an entire DECADE before the T90A entered production and the ammo the M1 is limited to is the same ammo it came out with, not even the upgraded ammo it could run. However, the T90A gets 3BM60, which has NOWHERE it can’t pen on the tanks from the 1980s. And then, the major nations are limited to ammo from the 1990s for their 120mms while Russian tanks get brand new ammo versus also being limited to things such as 3BM46. I find them overpowered to hell when I can effectively point click anywhere on a tank and win where they have to hit VERY specific spots while also having similar performance.
Tank K/D ratio for Soviets is around 1,2 at top tier, NATO is around 1.8. CAS is at least 2 K/D ratio that swings the match more often than not. Taking out tanks from above in key map positions in addition to anti air systems wins games. It is not the tanks that are winning the game. Any player that can achieve a 2 and above K/D ratio in the air will swing matches.
Once key aa systems are removed then using choppers becomes viable and adds to win rates.
heeyyy a knower. alright and so to close this pointless argument. is having better cas than lots of other nations a feature of the T80BVM or the T90M? is that somehow included in the modelling of the tank? Does driving an overall worse performing tank make it easier to get into said cas?
Wouldnt it maybe be much more efficient to go with the much better Performing Type 10/TKX and get into the Japanese Su30MKM with KH38s?
The tank is objectively better. It has similar speed, similar reload speed (superior if the enemy tank lost a crewman), ammo that penetrates most tanks frontally for most of the front aspect, great armor against both KE and CE with far smaller weakspots, similar turret rotation speed while also lacking critical damage models that every other tank gets. And sure, their win rate is high but I haven’t said anything about WR.
