It might be playable again with the infantry mode
New mode, fresh mode, fresh start
GRB is kinda cooked forever ngl
The other helipad spawns are much needed indeed
We have 16/25km IR missiles, but spawn at max 8km I think. So you have to go back and back so far behind the map…
But whatever would the heli players do if they couldn’t hover above their helipad and fire over a hundred missiles over the course of a few minutes?
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See, it’s not fun for heli pilots to be almost beat into supression, but it wasn’t fun for ground players when they’ve pretty much been doing the same thing before any of these SAMS got added.
They didn’t.
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Even based on what these stats provide, a good portion of the community has had issues with them in ground battles regardless.
Maybe it could be pereption, but generally any helicopter that is left unattended will see to be quite a powerful tool.
Helicopters are part of the battlefield. They should perform, but not so much (like LMURs). SPAAs should be part of the battlefield as well, but not perform too much as well (like the SM-SV)
It’s all about balance. Helis and SPAAs are important, but they shouldn’t be op
A good portion of the community has issues with cas just because cas exist and when they call for “balance” they just want useless cas. It’s fine if people want it, but don’t justify it by calling for balance, because it leads to the opposite.
Stat wise helicopters were fine or rather weak, given their sp cost even before all this new spaa. Now only 13.0 helicopter are relevant and almost any other helicopter have awful or ± same stat as MBT on the same br.
Anything that is left unattended (helicopter, plane, spawn camper, flanker) will see to be quite a powerful tool.
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It is what it is bro, same as CAS bois don’t care if tank players only wants to play with tanks, they asked them to suck it up because this is a combined arms battle bro go play wot hehe. Tank mains do the same thing, don’t care if CAS mains suffers because they forced to suck it up due to the lack of game option, of course they are not going to opposes any ideas to make CAS weaker like perfectly OK with the addition of OP SAMs. Maybe we can learn from bro Renzo, just admit our situation, both sides are equally prejudiced against an idea, our shit smells.
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They can spawn tanks you know? just like everyone else.
Honestly, I would love to see the situation, where everything is tuned to their best known, how the game would shift.
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Of course this oppisition really only showed up when the new multi-vehicle SAMS showed up. Ones shit has been smelling much longer than the most recents, which again is why people were bending over backwards on Gaijin if they were going to add more viable SAM systems.
I can currently understand the sentiment of not wanting SPAA to fall back down again. But then hearing a CAS player jump on the “balance” train the moment their authority is truly challenged is undeniably funny because their authority in the air was undoubtedly never questioned for a long time–until something Russian came out. Despite the IRISTs preformance prior to this vehicles coming, which leads me to believe it’s selective outrage to a degree.
ngl it did not feel like it in ground sim yesterday pantsirs ended up dying to the AH-64e’s more than killing them they also couldn’t touch my rafale period
It’s because large majority of Russia players are a bunch of noobs choosing the META biased nation by default
They don’t even know how to use the SM-SV yet. But in the hand of an experienced player, it’s bye bye Rafale
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but this is not Pantsir SM SV is it?
You missing few small points:
- gameplay on a modern jet is 10 times harder then a mbt
- jet loaded with a full munition set costs 1000 SP now. And not all of its munitions even great, given what spaas are up against you
So youre telling me that a 1000 SP unit should have the same effectiveness as a 70-110 SP one? Right now for 9 out of 10 nations in the game youre grinding a modern jet, learning how to fly, using different weapon systems, studying radar controls only to get in to a disadvantage position by spawning 1000 sp plane and having a 70 SP pantsir against you? You learned how to CONSISTENTLY get 4 kills in a mbt only to get in an equal or worse position with a someone who got killed by you twice and get in to spaa? What are you even talking about?
But the most fun thing here is for ussr cas still works like an actuall kill streak. If you spawn in a mi-28nm, su-25T/39, su-24 or su-30sm/sm2/34 youre actually can just farm kills without any problems.
Ussr teams would be buried on their spawns in 10 seconds because of spike nlos spam from vehicles like pereh shoting from their spawns.
Yeah at this point they should add vehicles and lock them based on gamemodes
I have both and i try to be as logical i can be at BALANCING br brackets instead of larping about vehicles or weapons system year like at least 50% of the community does…