Im not considering skill issues of ussr pilots. Im talking about competent cas pilot in ussr jet/heli. Iris-t have no chanses against people, who know what they are doing.
In my experience they have near 100% shootdown rate of ordenance - and not just the iris t
Same thing happens with the Pantsir, the issue is universal. They really need to update the radar interface and actually highlight what target is being tracked on the left side.
if thats the case what are you seething about then? You can do the same to soviet spaa
Grass is always greener on the other side.
There are times my NATO systems completely failed to intercept incoming munitions or planes due to getting confused by multiple things at air.
thats not exclusive to nato
Indeed Pantsir also suffers from same issue.
I don’t wanna be that guy, but the whole “1v1” mentality seems a bit dated. There’s already people in Air RB who hate when you interrupt a 1v1 in a team-based game.
Yeah it was fun in the air, but not so fun for people on the ground is the problem, that’s why all these systems got added, granted how CAS just kept on gradually getting stronger. And I don’t know what you mean by “downtier seal clubbing.” AA isn’t really sealclubbing low tiers. And the br brackets don’t do a good job of representing an individual aircrafts potential.
A-10 and Su-39s are still very viable if you know what you’re doing, but of course everyones going to want the supersonic strike aircraft.
If they just fixed the angle of attack than that’d be good enough. Adding the NLOS guidance would effectively ruin everything lol
The issue is, not the same. When it comes to pantsir, track radar gets too many targets, and they start overwriting old targets, meaning it jumps around.
When it comes to SLM, more targets causes the radar to, well, im not sure how to diagnose it. Other than the usual TWS jumping, it starts sending poorer DL updates, making the missile fly in a erratic way, or sometimes even miss, as the DL causes it to look with its seeker elsewhere.
no you cant, lol. Thats exact reason this topic exists - because there is no counterplay against it.
Sorry but you are that guy. I played CAP not CAS. Those 1v1s, 1v2’s or 3’s were in defense of my team from CAS while dodging AA. It WAS good fights, but that’s not the primary reason I played.
-10 points for assumption of intent
I spelled out what I meant by seal clubbing in the same sentence, please re-read.
11.7 jets facing 12.7 AA is seal clubbing. Point and click spreadsheet adventure AA is not skill versus spending hours learning how to fly, notch, use the weapons etc.
We have this entire 2700+ post complaining about a 12.7 AA as proof.
Guess it’s time to get something higher than 11.7
The SM-SV would disagree

Well that sucks, but that just how Anti-Air operates. The more modern you get, the less technical it gets.
Maybe the game should cap itself at a certain technological point if “no skill” is going to get in the way of the game.
It’s management
I don’t remember very well. Probably they immediately started moving and break 20m rule, and I already had several hellfires in air, since I usually spam a missile every few seconds to reduce the time of hitting for a possible target.
sure 100% with you. but im also interested in understanding where they got the stats for the 95ya6m.
I don't know. It seems to me that this is a rather complex and skill-dependent gameplay:
be su30sm2, point nose at battle. shoot 6 kh39mts get six kills, invincible done remotely properly, only real danger is iris t slm, repeat
be rafale, point nose at target yeet 8 aasm250s, get 5-8 kills(or 0 if sm sv is around), either die to sm sv or survive and repeat.
spice 250 aircraft take a bit more effort to play, same for f/a18e with its crap mavs or slightly less crap slams.
cas gameplay isnt that hard, thats not a problem if SAMs were effective, as sams are even easier to play, the problem is the only effective sams are the iris t slm and the pantsir’s(both of em btw s1 is still great) and slm is Useless against helis(which are only realistically killable by aircraft and Pantsir).
top tier is abysmal. nothing is being done about nothing is aknowledged, it keeps getting worse, and im definetly taking prolonged break, and im talking as a predominantly air and aa player. game is just terrible rn