The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

Helicopters are part of the battlefield. They should perform, but not so much (like LMURs). SPAAs should be part of the battlefield as well, but not perform too much as well (like the SM-SV)

It’s all about balance. Helis and SPAAs are important, but they shouldn’t be op

A good portion of the community has issues with cas just because cas exist and when they call for “balance” they just want useless cas. It’s fine if people want it, but don’t justify it by calling for balance, because it leads to the opposite.

Stat wise helicopters were fine or rather weak, given their sp cost even before all this new spaa. Now only 13.0 helicopter are relevant and almost any other helicopter have awful or ± same stat as MBT on the same br.

Anything that is left unattended (helicopter, plane, spawn camper, flanker) will see to be quite a powerful tool.

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They can spawn tanks you know? just like everyone else.

Honestly, I would love to see the situation, where everything is tuned to their best known, how the game would shift.

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ngl it did not feel like it in ground sim yesterday pantsirs ended up dying to the AH-64e’s more than killing them they also couldn’t touch my rafale period

It’s because large majority of Russia players are a bunch of noobs choosing the META biased nation by default

They don’t even know how to use the SM-SV yet. But in the hand of an experienced player, it’s bye bye Rafale

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but this is not Pantsir SM SV is it?

You missing few small points:

  1. gameplay on a modern jet is 10 times harder then a mbt
  2. jet loaded with a full munition set costs 1000 SP now. And not all of its munitions even great, given what spaas are up against you

So youre telling me that a 1000 SP unit should have the same effectiveness as a 70-110 SP one? Right now for 9 out of 10 nations in the game youre grinding a modern jet, learning how to fly, using different weapon systems, studying radar controls only to get in to a disadvantage position by spawning 1000 sp plane and having a 70 SP pantsir against you? You learned how to CONSISTENTLY get 4 kills in a mbt only to get in an equal or worse position with a someone who got killed by you twice and get in to spaa? What are you even talking about?

But the most fun thing here is for ussr cas still works like an actuall kill streak. If you spawn in a mi-28nm, su-25T/39, su-24 or su-30sm/sm2/34 youre actually can just farm kills without any problems.

Ussr teams would be buried on their spawns in 10 seconds because of spike nlos spam from vehicles like pereh shoting from their spawns.

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Yeah at this point they should add vehicles and lock them based on gamemodes

I have both and i try to be as logical i can be at BALANCING br brackets instead of larping about vehicles or weapons system year like at least 50% of the community does…

Starstreaks I get but how are they that oblivious to hellfires 😭

AA vs air brackets are seriously messed up right now.

Before IRIST/BUK/SMSV +friends it was fun in the air and I had great 1v1 battles.

Now post that with the free AA systems and free daily respawns it’s just sweatlord city. Any 11.7-12.3 air in GRB is going to have a bad time because every match they have at least someone enjoying downtier seal clubbing.

I feel bad for anyone just getting the jets or helis now. They missed out on some good times where you could use the vehicles you spent days or months grinding to.

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its fair for 9 nations out of 10. Ussr still can enjoy cas at top tier.

You can shoot down all soviet cas with the iris t. Only the occasional 28nm will be an issue and you can still shoot all of its lmurs

Yea, if all of them would so happen to bear an absence of brain, like total one.
Which isn’t a far fetched story when we consider the subject, especially at top tier.

You cant.

As soon as any Russian jet that fires multiple KH-38 radar goes insane and causing accuracy issues and making missiles miss their target.

Not to mention only one nation uses IRIS-T SLM which renders other nations pretty much useless against Russia, it becomes even worse if they team up together.

Which is actually very boring. Because IRIS-T is pretty much left without a job.