The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

Here.

Also funnily enough three of your matches are in the data.

Match 1
Match 2
Match 3

There you have it, people have been complaining the things like arat and tes have so little ce protection that they wouodve been penned by the rpgs they were meant to stop for a while already

Yes, CAS against Russia sooner or later in the game (mostly sooner) always comes down to fighting hordes of free pantsirs.

good to see. british power

oh yeah. well i am a very british main

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Chad vehicle

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very much so. best looking top tier tank no doubt

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Insert IRIS-T SLM wirh a “effective range” of 40km range IRL with ~50km Max.
Game: 40km Max, cant even reach it because of the awfull loft profile which gaijin refuses to change…

This is also another balancing issue. What is each nation’s CAS actually destroying.

These two tables show the percentage of SPAA destroyed to everything each nations CAS is destroying.

Past 2 weeks (1,913 replays)
vehicle Ratio Data points
Great Britain 51.98% 202
Israel 50.23% 215
Japan 49.64% 419
USA 47.7% 1807
France 47.4% 308
Germany 46.97% 760
Italy 46.7% 227
China 43.58% 1402
Sweden 43.01% 272
USSR 37.52% 7446
Past 10 months (9,553 replays)
vehicle Ratio Data points
Sweden 47.19% 1176
Great Britain 44.0% 1450
Germany 43.97% 5970
Japan 42.78% 2153
France 42.26% 3237
Italy 40.39% 1134
China 39.07% 6425
Israel 38.42% 1796
USA 36.57% 14639
USSR 34.35% 33840

I don’t think I really understand how I’m supposed to interpret these tables

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Think of it as an obvious shift in prioritization, and that SPAA are more common.

Also if I had to guess there has been a commensurate decrease in how effective CAS has been at clearing opposition. So they keep getting shut out or needing to expend more of their stores to achieve the same number of kills so the effective stow kills has decreased.

it be interesting if it was also compared to which nation is being killed by which over the same dataset. But that may well be much more involved.

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They show what each nations CAS is destroying. So for Russia in the past 2 weeks, 37.52% are SPAA and 62.48% are tanks. They’re destroying way more tanks than they are SPAA.

May I ask at which exact vehicle youre having a great time?

Only spike vehicles he owns are Vilkas and CRV, neither of which he is in positive KD or KS. So that great time seems to have has to be either a hallucination or cope.

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I can’t do nation to nation right now, best I can give you is kill, death percentages and nation pairing.

Past 2 weeks

Nation CAS kill percentage
Nation Tank Kills CAS Kills CAS % Nation CAS % Total Tank Kills % Total
USSR 44017 7483 14.53% 57.02% 38.13%
USA 18664 1801 8.80% 13.72% 16.17%
China 13462 1414 9.51% 10.77% 11.66%
Germany 16910 766 4.33% 5.84% 14.65%
Japan 6471 424 6.15% 3.23% 5.61%
France 3053 308 9.16% 2.35% 2.64%
Sweden 3962 274 6.47% 2.09% 3.43%
Italy 4443 227 4.86% 1.73% 3.85%
Israel 2008 222 9.96% 1.69% 1.74%
Great Britain 2452 205 7.72% 1.56% 2.12%
Nation CAS death percentage
Nation Tank Deaths CAS Deaths CAS Deaths %
Sweden 3300 593 15.23%
Israel 1691 289 14.60%
Germany 19112 2909 13.21%
Great Britain 2353 315 11.81%
France 3032 402 11.71%
Italy 3614 471 11.53%
USA 19074 2344 10.94%
China 13609 1596 10.50%
Japan 5668 664 10.49%
USSR 43989 3614 7.59%
Nation pairing
USA USSR DE GB Japan Italy FR China Sweden Israel
USA 24.9% 20.4% 72.4% 45.2% 75.4% 49.8% 56.3% 55.7% 94.0%
USSR 24.9% 52.6% 13.9% 33.0% 30.0% 21.3% 27.7% 18.2% 10.7%
DE 20.4% 52.6% 40.2% 41.9% 12.7% 40.4% 29.2% 67.8% 30.9%
GB 72.4% 13.9% 40.2% 69.5% 68.0% 65.9% 77.0% 63.1% 72.6%
Japan 45.2% 33.0% 41.9% 69.5% 71.0% 89.8% 67.8% 38.2% 54.4%
Italy 75.4% 30.0% 12.7% 68.0% 71.0% 69.2% 65.7% 43.3% 78.9%
FR 49.8% 21.3% 40.4% 65.9% 89.8% 69.2% 75.5% 53.1% 63.2%
China 56.3% 27.7% 29.2% 77.0% 67.8% 65.7% 75.5% 49.2% 55.1%
Sweden 55.7% 18.2% 67.8% 63.1% 38.2% 43.3% 53.1% 49.2% 70.4%
Israel 94.0% 10.7% 30.9% 72.6% 54.4% 78.9% 63.2% 55.1% 70.4%

Past 10 months

Nation CAS kill percentage
Nation Tank Kills CAS Kills CAS % Nation CAS % Total Tank Kills % Total
USSR 170014 33375 16.41% 47.51% 31.74%
USA 100860 13616 11.89% 19.38% 18.83%
China 44250 6344 12.54% 9.03% 8.26%
Germany 93862 5970 5.98% 8.50% 17.52%
France 20934 3237 13.39% 4.61% 3.91%
Japan 40480 2153 5.05% 3.06% 7.56%
Israel 11180 1796 13.84% 2.56% 2.09%
Great Britain 14874 1450 8.88% 2.06% 2.78%
Sweden 22102 1176 5.05% 1.67% 4.13%
Italy 17128 1134 6.21% 1.61% 3.20%
Nation CAS death percentage
Nation Tank Deaths CAS Deaths CAS Deaths %
Sweden 18528 3463 15.75%
Germany 99602 17420 14.89%
France 17824 3042 14.58%
Great Britain 14185 2163 13.23%
Italy 14572 2151 12.86%
Israel 9542 1402 12.81%
Japan 33295 4726 12.43%
China 44404 5676 11.33%
USA 107575 13700 11.30%
USSR 176156 18078 9.31%
Nation pairing
USA USSR DE GB Japan Italy FR China Sweden Israel
USA 29.4% 24.5% 61.2% 38.8% 62.3% 41.8% 44.7% 53.1% 88.0%
USSR 29.4% 45.3% 29.6% 38.3% 38.8% 25.2% 43.3% 16.1% 17.4%
DE 24.5% 45.3% 44.2% 40.3% 18.8% 40.6% 33.7% 69.9% 35.6%
GB 61.2% 29.6% 44.2% 64.1% 59.3% 61.1% 68.3% 54.5% 53.4%
Japan 38.8% 38.3% 40.3% 64.1% 78.0% 88.2% 60.7% 43.8% 51.2%
Italy 62.3% 38.8% 18.8% 59.3% 78.0% 70.4% 53.6% 41.4% 73.4%
FR 41.8% 25.2% 40.6% 61.1% 88.2% 70.4% 70.7% 59.7% 56.8%
China 44.7% 43.3% 33.7% 68.3% 60.7% 53.6% 70.7% 39.8% 36.8%
Sweden 53.1% 16.1% 69.9% 54.5% 43.8% 41.4% 59.7% 39.8% 66.9%
Israel 88.0% 17.4% 35.6% 53.4% 51.2% 73.4% 56.8% 36.8% 66.9%
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Thats exactly what Im pointing at. I like how people are saying crap on a forum not even realising anyone can easly check their words.

now imagine what numbers would look like if ussr pilots wouldnt die to a trees or straight up fly in to arh missiles without even trying to dodge.

Is that unique to Russian players ?

You would have to see Gaijins internal stat records to know if the Buk actually was underperforming

It is entirely possible that the average Buk user sucked so bad that the overall stats of the vehicle were terrible

Gaijin almost never bases their balance decisions on raw vehicle specifications or the stats of players that know how to use the vehicles