My IRIS-T is a psychological warfare unit.
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You mighe be right actually about the electronics part.
Just riding off the 2s6 model, they still have a bunch of open space in the middle that’s occupied by the crew, the radar electronics seems to be an addon to it’s structure that’s not seen on this newer sm model.
The Pantsir S-1 is situated differently so everything is basically house within the turret except for the FCS.
I’m not sure if we know enough on the internals for the top section to say is electronics are actually housed there or not. Or how much is actually there.
(I edited this because my previous comment did not make sense and I was snoozing off.)
Absolute flipping Cinema.
Thinking about it some more, how often do people actually run into situations where shooting the missiles on the launcher is their only way to kill someone?
(not trying to downplay the lack of missiles being modelled on the Pantsir lol)
Also, I think I figured out why this never seems to happen to me, usually when I get killed in missile vehicles, my launchers are either almost or even completely empty and especially on the Stormer I tend to just dump the missiles as a last ditch effort
(killed plety of MBTs that way thanks to janky overpressure lol)
The 2s6 is also an older vehicle and those vehicles obviously required more housing for tons of electronics, but that’s the only place electronics are found on that vehicle.
Pantsir S-1 has another set but it’s all housed in the main turret and that is the only place electronics (the module) are found.
The SM-SV has a smaller electronics module located inside the vehicle already and something doesn’t have to neccessarily be big to power a vehicle.
Now ARH SAM carriers are a totally different story and require the amount of electronics they do.
There definitely must be electronics in there, they gotta put a placeholder module in it, if there isn’t enough info about what exactly is in the turret
Not often at all.
On some small vehicles the launchers aren’t a huge “kill” button so it doesn’t neccessarily matter.
In the case of the Pantsir S-1 or SAMS, they’re so big and you’d only have darts loaded (most times), shooting the huge rack of ammo made sense to a degree, at least since the gun or missle ammo are all in one spot.
It’s not a matter of being the only way. Let me highlight an example using hulldown vehicles:
Here is a hulldown ADATS.
Now here is a hulldown pantsir-SM.
Which of these would you be able to more reliably, quickly snapshot, particularly at a distance if its moving?
A lot of people tend to aim center mass, so even if the missles were modeled, the ADATS would still have the almost guaranteed chance of blowing up.
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Obviously the ADATS
But that scenario seems extremely unlikely to happen, which is why I am genuinely curious how often people actually run into such scenarios
Again, I’m not trying to defend the Pantsirs missiles not being modelled. They should 100% be modelled.
Even if images like that didn’t exist, the turret can’t be empty
The search radar should have a small electronics module beneath it and the room between the tracking radar and the ammo belts should be filled with some electronics module as well, the hydraulics/aiming drives can’t be the only thing in there (and even if it was, it should be modelled to be bigger)
I highly doubt that area would be filled with air and, as funny as it is to imagine, there definitely isn’t a dude sitting in the turret
Obviously if the devs didn’t put anything there, then they must not have any definite proof there is anything in there.
And we can’t just go off the 2s6 because that’s an older model, and on that model the entire middle area was for the crew
Highlights it but doesn’t show any parts of where the equipment is relayed in the vehicle.
This is the type of diagaram we’d actually want for example
But since the vehicle is susceptible to likes of .50cals, I really don’t think it’s that detrimental if not all the electronics are there anyways, at least until more info comes out on that.
is Type 03 that bad so much so that even Tan-SAM Kai somehow got listed instead?
Pretty much
On this note i find it really, really funny sky sabre just isn’t there at all.
I think you’d be hard pressed to find an engineer incompetent enough that if there really were no electronics in there, they would fail to realise they could have made the turret like a quarter of the size.
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Aster-30 should keep its energy far better is what he was trying to explain to you
M1.3 for a target 11000m high at 30km instead of M2.6 IRL for that same scenario.
Already been bug reported (Gaijin won’t fix it before a decade, one can bet)
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Aster is anti air, anti ballistic for its last variants, and anti sea skimming
Jack of all trades master of none
While the speed is lower than pantsir missile, it sustains for 4s at that speed.
On a long range shot it would loft aggressively and the burn would end in thinner air.
I’m assuming Aster low performance in game comes from not enough lofting and too much drag (a problem that seems to plague all non russian missiles tbh)
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isn’t it the tower spaa with radar named giraffe?
i’m surprised people can even kill it in plane to be honest