The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

Literally every SPAA player in existance which is why we have the whole issue of SPAA at lower brs just being psuedo TD’s

good luck using any toptier SPAA as a TD that isn’t adats or russian

Because it has no modules in its turret and the missiles aren’t even modeled in the launchers, so it can’t be ammoracked or overpressured via destroying its missiles, it’s another happy accident in favor of Russia ;)

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Turret has modules…

Could be an issue with x-ray modeling since this is one of those vehicles that can mix and match it’s loadout and X-ray usually is just a single model that doesn’t change.


objectively false

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Huh?

We were specifically talking about the modules (as in FCS and whatnot, the things everyone else gets that instantly disable your everything when hit.)

That’s all located interanlly on this model… the 2s6 is an older model…

You mean to tell me the pantsir-SM has absolutely zero electronics in the turret, and they made that gigantic turret out of hollow aluminium sheets for the bit?

Aight, I was too focussed on the launcher claim

I am weirded out about the missiles not being shown in the protection analysis (I know that yours is filtered out, mine isn’t though), but the gun ammo is there

Oh the missiles can’t be hit at all. They literally aren’t on the X-Ray and cannot explode.

Them not being on the x-ray is one thing, I could accepted that as a mistake

But them not being modelled in-game is beyond stupid

Correct, that’s what was meant by this:

I am fairly certain that the thing wouldn’t get overpressured or ammoracked by hitting them missiles either way

The 95Ya6Ms have extremely little explosive filler and from my experience, even the larger ones on other SAMs tend to not overpressure the launch vehicles when destroyed

I took the comment as if the launchers themselves weren’t modelled at all and your screenshot made it look like that actually was the case lol

It’s independent of filler really. Look at the stormer HVM, which just disintegrates you upon its completely remote launcher with barely any explosive mass being hit. Just a matter of whether gaijin decides they hate that vehicle in particular or not.

I can’t remember ever having been killed by someone shooting my missiles in the Stormer HVM

Same goes for the ADATS and a lot of ATGM carriers

I use it as a recce when there’s no air up and it happens to me nonstop. Someone skims the top row of missiles and i disintegrate.

I dunno, I must be incredibly lucky (and unlucky at the same time)

I do get shot a lot as I use the Stormer HVM to kill lights and even MBTs whenever possible, yet all that ever happens is the launcher getting disabled

On the other hand, I never seem to be able to kill missile vehicles by shooting the missiles lol

For the vast majority of russian missile vehicles it unfortunately doesn’t work. You need to hit the actual main magazine. For just about any others it does.

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As for the USSR vehicles, I am aware of that lol

I should start taking count of missile destruction causing kills, but as I’ve said, all the cases of my launchers and missiles getting hit that I can remember led to me just losing my launcher and the destroyed missiles

It’s a shame that the damage analysis tool doesn’t model ammo detonation properly to show if the detonation would cause overpressur

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