A lot of people tend to aim center mass, so even if the missles were modeled, the ADATS would still have the almost guaranteed chance of blowing up.
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Obviously the ADATS
But that scenario seems extremely unlikely to happen, which is why I am genuinely curious how often people actually run into such scenarios
Again, I’m not trying to defend the Pantsirs missiles not being modelled. They should 100% be modelled.
Even if images like that didn’t exist, the turret can’t be empty
The search radar should have a small electronics module beneath it and the room between the tracking radar and the ammo belts should be filled with some electronics module as well, the hydraulics/aiming drives can’t be the only thing in there (and even if it was, it should be modelled to be bigger)
I highly doubt that area would be filled with air and, as funny as it is to imagine, there definitely isn’t a dude sitting in the turret
Obviously if the devs didn’t put anything there, then they must not have any definite proof there is anything in there.
And we can’t just go off the 2s6 because that’s an older model, and on that model the entire middle area was for the crew
Highlights it but doesn’t show any parts of where the equipment is relayed in the vehicle.
This is the type of diagaram we’d actually want for example
But since the vehicle is susceptible to likes of .50cals, I really don’t think it’s that detrimental if not all the electronics are there anyways, at least until more info comes out on that.
is Type 03 that bad so much so that even Tan-SAM Kai somehow got listed instead?
Pretty much
On this note i find it really, really funny sky sabre just isn’t there at all.
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I think you’d be hard pressed to find an engineer incompetent enough that if there really were no electronics in there, they would fail to realise they could have made the turret like a quarter of the size.
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Aster-30 should keep its energy far better is what he was trying to explain to you
M1.3 for a target 11000m high at 30km instead of M2.6 IRL for that same scenario.
Already been bug reported (Gaijin won’t fix it before a decade, one can bet)
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Aster is anti air, anti ballistic for its last variants, and anti sea skimming
Jack of all trades master of none
While the speed is lower than pantsir missile, it sustains for 4s at that speed.
On a long range shot it would loft aggressively and the burn would end in thinner air.
I’m assuming Aster low performance in game comes from not enough lofting and too much drag (a problem that seems to plague all non russian missiles tbh)
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isn’t it the tower spaa with radar named giraffe?
i’m surprised people can even kill it in plane to be honest
It also has enough trash components in the way that block 50 cal shots head on.
Yes the dashboard will block 50 cal shots. 50cal AP rarely if ever passes through the main cabin if shooting head on.
You can’t kill the gunners with 50 cal lol.
no i wasnt comparing to starstreak, i was telling you why starstreak was made the way it was, which is pretty unconventional insofar as nato shorad, the only other western country with a similar weapon system is sweden
my brother in christ its not the first time you made that absolutely dumb statement, i already told you why its dumb, im not engaging further with that nonsense
aster 30 is pretty much wrong in every way
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Okay dude if you say so. But go throw a fit somewhere else.
Youve quite literally said Russian Saclos missles are supposed to be bad to some degree, or have “no advantage being SACLOS”.
“Only the missle count should be the advantage”
I dont even know what you’ve been on about.
But that doesnt even matter at this point, lets just move on from the back and forth yeah?
Everyones open to criticism here, but you dont gotta be so rude about it if you are going too.
ironic considering you’ve been stalwartly defending this vehicle in hundreds of replies over 2.5k posts.
how hard is it to understand? the only advantage the smv should have over Sams should be Missile count, saclos is WORSE than ARH much like it is WORSE than IIR with Datalink.
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More so giving an overview of what led up to now, rather than just complaining about something just because.
You keep saying its “worse” yet youre not giving me much of a reason as to why it should be worse.
Most aircraft engagements happen at close range and rarely happen at long range. This benifits SACLOS missles more than anything.
bruv, why would autonomous guidance be worse at close ranges, the reason saclos is chosen is because its cheaper and it allows you to keep the guidance smaller in the missile, indipendent guidance is better in 90% of cases.
i wonder why?!?! could it be that the longer range anti air systems are artificially gimped to force a specific meta? nooooo it couldnt be it must be that countries simply didnt make any good anti air systems as you intelligently pointed out!