Comparing the second screenshot to what I have. That typhoon is at 46kilometers and the missile has only traveled half that distance (assuming he was already manuvering) I’m not surprised it’s significantly dropped in speed But that drop in speed seems way too drastic for having only traveled half the distance to the Typhoon
Join us low tier enjoyers, russian bias has less influence in lower tiers.
Would be good if everyone started playing ww2 again and gaijin would have no option but to give us more ww2 tanks! :D
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Yes, you (or the guidance system) has to lead more to get to its target faster and avoid wasting energy
Missile speed, target distance, trajectory and speed all are factors when determining the optimal missile path and therefore the required amount of lead
The VT-1 (1,250 m/s) for example needs less lead than the MIM-146 (1,065 m/s)
The 9M311/9M311-1M (910 m/s), 9M331 (850 m/s) and HQ-17 (885 m/s) on the other hand need more lead than the MIM-146 (1,065m/s)
The VT-1 (1,250 m/s) and 95Ya6 (1,300 m/s) don’t need a lot of lead compared to the other SACLOS SAMs
And then you have the 95Ya6M at 1,700 m/s where you basically don’t even need to think about the lead
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Basically what I’m saying is that hypersonic speeds are considered to be somewhere around Mach 5. The missle barely cracks Mach 5 but maintains a reasonable amount of speed of Mach 4 at it’s max engagment distance (at higher altitudes)
As I said the missles purpose was to intercept hypersonic missles so mainting Mach 4 at higher altitudes make sense.
Yak 9 still exists
It’s never going to hit a Hypersonic missile in it’s terminal phase.
You need to hit them before that, although Russia do not truly have a Hypersonic missile. All of them are incapable of any kind of defensive manoeuvring.
Typhoon was not maneuvering at all, it was just slowly flying away.
Hypersonic missles are most vulnerable in their terminal phase…
but in the case with this missle, it can still attack it on it’s final approach
Then yeah, something was definetly wrong.
Thats just how missiles in this game are made.
And that is why 6M is such a blinding contrast to them all.
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All I’m saying is it’s very unlikely the 6Ms preformance is exaggerated for what it was designed to do with double the range.
But obviously comparing it with the Aster 30 they should be somewhat similar in preformance
The thing is, ASTER 30 is a +120km rated missile in pure kinematics, limited to 100 by the radar on the in-game SAMP/T
Why would you use a Pantsir system for that purpose? When an S-500 is already designed to intercept Hypersonic missiles?
Pantsir is a SHORAD system when we take it out of the War Thunder eco system it not being able to fire over the horizon and be dependant on LOS is a real disadvantage.
Which is why it as said before is a SHORAD system and is deployed to protect S-400 sites, Kerch bridge and other targets that could be attacked by drones or missiles.
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I’d rather have to deal with a Yak 9 than a Me 262 Pulkzerstörer
In genral I am more worried about German cannon CAS than about USSR cannon CAS at low BRs
Which means it should be sustaining the speeds the 6M do for longer and much farther to have that kind of range.
Is there any info on it I can take a look at?
For a missile rated for that kind of range, I’m having trouble deducing on what range it will hit it’s top speed since it’s 1500m/s vs the 6m 1700m/s. And obviously if it’s primary goal was to hit sea skimming targets or terminal phase threats, I don’t imagine it will be doing a lot of manuvering to hit it’s target.
Oh no friend the Yak 9 APHE is a lower BR and wrecks
I know that it’s at a lower BR, I just don’t mind that one at all
It’s not like other nations can’t do the same either
because it’s a lower BR it faces weaker SPAA and because of that it is near impossible to shoot down from the ground.
Most SPAA players can’t shoot worth a damn and since it’s Russia, it’s a gamble if they fight against Germany, or are teamed up with the U.S to fight Germany.
Again, other nations have options to do the same, usually at even lower BRs
Having to deal with a Me 262 in a 5.3 SPAA is an actual nightmare, the Yak is just a regular plane with a cannon in its nose
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