You’re asking me? Blame the other countries for not getting on the level of the Pantsir despite having captured 1 and not caring enough to devolop anything remotely similar.
And if that was such a concern, CAS would’ve been held back where the Pantsir wouldn’t of been a neccssary addition.
Sky sabre is supposed to be VSHORAD capable… guess what it can’t do in game.
People didn’t develop something similar because they already have far better.
Imagine a world in which Gaijin models such systems accurately
So you’re saying these systems should be leading the missles to some degree and not relying soly on LOS, or is this something exclusive to the ADATS?
Imagine a world in which people don’t attribute war thunder performance to the real systems…
“Far better” isn’t neccessarily true. The Pantsirs mission is to defend the SAMS and they are quite effective at doing just that, a lot of countries have invested into the system so I wouldn’t put it off in that regard.
And by VSHORAD capable you’re saying it includes a gun and the missles react fast enough to intercept large saturation attacks.
You mean gaijin for not adding da gun truk to the multi vehicle loadouts?
The tech is there, gaijin didn’t add it. Just like they didn’t add good radar systems.
Again.
When I say “remotely similar” I don’t mean
“This one truck has just a gun”
“This one truck has just missles”
I mean an all in one system that’s mobile, and isn’t a big lumbering target.
It would do realistically because we have this wonderful thing called Counter-Rocket/Artillery/Missile systems.
yep.
So if they have “far better” why do majority of people on this forum say it’s not fair the Pantsir is accustomed to do something other SAM systems can’t do effeciently since range is the name of the game in their case, (which they can’t use because of game design) and the added factor of multipathing lol.
Because they can’t do it efficiently in game because they’re gimped. Refer to this:
Your argument holds no water as they have implemented multiple vehicle systems in the game.
Prior to that I would agree with you but the fact is, they have added 3 vehicle setups.
It would help, but I’m saying it will only do so much.
A competent pilot will distract with you clutter and approach from a completely different angle.
It can’t effectively engage aircraft, and I guarantee you it’d be susceptible to spammed dumb rockets. I’m not saying it shouldn’t be added, but it would be underwhelming at best.
The missiles alone should be able to handle the threat fine.
They implemented them as basially a stop gap, they didn’t adjust the game for these systems to work effectively as they should. They just realized they let CAS get too strong and didn’t account for SPAA being able to deal with that.
I’m not even really arguing, I’m just straight up saying game design doesn’t let the SAMS be effective and only let’s CAS be effective (or always be in at an advantage)
…And achieved nothing because they then buffed CAS in the process (see the helis that they, quote, “felt justified adding” because of the new SAMs) and forgot to make the new SAM systems actually work by forcing them to contend with LDIRCM and helis being immune to radars and ECCM not existing and all of these SAMs underperforming across the board in general and 60m multipath on top of ALL that.
It’s all okay though, because the pantsir is UNAFFECTED by multipath by using… magic I suppose.
Maybe? But based on most matches, they end up getting strafed.
All I’m saying is there is no all ine one system. That’s it, yes NATO has plenty of other additions but most require multi vehicle setups.
A C-RAM would just be a stop-gap.
I’m not saying we need C-RAM in any regard. That was just a point that a gun could be added to the sysem. What we need is gaijin to realise that non-russian SAMs are actually useful and can hit things.
So you don’t understand how SACLOS missles work, since they’re just using LOS to keep the missle on you.
As long as you are in sight, the missile will hit you. It’s not using a radar in the missle itself to track you.
It’s not SACLOS the moment the missile is leading automatically. Sure when it’s flying straight towards the target sitting in line with the launcher.
