It would be considerably better for helis, if you know what you’re doing atleast, way faster than anything else, and if you know what you’re doing with vikhrs, you already overpressure 90% of the time anyway, basically all around upgrade compared to vikhrs except for guidance and proxy fuse
Going by statshark KDR for February, it was the best performing top tier SAM.
Push the stats to all-time and its the second best performing, not too far behind the SLM.
It EASILY has the best radar of all the TADS as well, between the mast mounting giving it way more operational flexibility and situational awareness, the best in class refresh rate (1s), and even the fact it didn’t get screwed by gaijin on the datalink front (24 datalink channels vs 4 on the SLM and NASAMS for example).
Y’all may not realize it since you only play the SkySabre, but it likely IS the best non-russian top tier SAM in-game. Aster-30 might compete, but it doesn’t according to the numbers atleast. All the SAM’s struggle with jank missiles and bad radars atm because that’s how gaijins modelled all the western ones. SLM has fallen hard with how common LDIRCM now is and it being quite literally incapable of even threatening those helis. It also can’t deal with saturation attacks well due to the 4 datalink channels and its seekers habit of not wanting to lock munitions whatsoever.
Quick disclaimer though, I havent played the SkySabre myself, I’m just speaking on the numbers along with my experience with SLM and NASAMS and their issues.
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I’ve said this before but stats alone don’t say much. Certain countries are more likely to be matched against certain other countries: for example, Britain is almost always against Russia. It is no coincidence that this makes getting air kills easier be it on account of unskilled su30 premiums or simply the fact that they spawn more aircraft before you inevitably get spawncamped. It’s important to work on the objective performance of the vehicle.
True. You also lose that mast mounted radar every 60 seconds of the match.
Not true. The datalink didn’t even work for 3 months and the missiles are nowhere near good enough to be using more than 3 or 4 at once anyways.
Pantsir S1 alone beats it by far. I can’t speak on the buk but numbers-wise it’s superior in every way.
The SAMs with thrust vectoring at least pull at close range and don’t voluntarily miss easy targets, which sky sabre does almost every time.
Sure but sky sabre can’t hit helis either so that’s a moot point.
Sky sabre also can’t do this on account of the seekers being mediocre at best and usually all tracking one missile, or many failing to track entirely, or just missing the incoming missile god forbid you launch under 5km range. If i didn’t delete my thousand or so clips a month ago i’d have so many to show of the damn thing just not working whatsoever while i was trying to spade it.
Oh, I don’t doubt that it’s the best radar one, but even while being the best, it’s doing a terribly inconsistent job
So has anyone found an effective counter to the new pantsir?
- Low level strafing
- Add rocket pods to your loadout and use the rockets as a way to distract and saturate the Pantsirs radar
- Rocket spam in general
- Teamplay
- Use a tank
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All things American teams fail to do lol
Those are things for YOU to do, not for your team to do
If you’ve got a buddy, you can do teamplay
I don’t :(
I do all those things yet we still loose and I consistently placed top three in my team
You can’t change the fact that you might end up with a bad team, you can only do your best and hope that the matchmaker blesses you with a good team
I rarely spawn air at top tier. I think thats the way to do. Spawning jets or choppers doesn’t really help you vs russian teams. Even their free reserve SPAA is op. Theyre just too good, you better spend the points for ground vehicles. Instead of investing 780 sp for jets which usually get shot down without scoring. You simply won’t penetrate russian AA.
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I mean, in general sometimes spawning CAS isn’t helpful
People tend to just spawn CAS because they can and they don’t think about spawning a tank instead because it might be more helpful for their team
Even at BRs without the Pantsir, you might end up having all your A2G weapons intercepted by the SAMs and SPAAs at said BRs or you just don’t find any good targets, making you pretty useless for your team
You have to gauge whether your contribution in a plane would be valuable or not and when you misjudge the situation you waste SP and don’t help your team
I fail to read the situation in a lot of matches as well, but you have to learn from those mistakes to be able to avoid such wasted CAS spawns in the future
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Yeah I totally understand that I am just currently trying to gather footage with the AGM 84H
So I am struggling to successfully do so with the F18E
What should be my ideal loadout?
good for light armored targets which are spotted or only enemy spawn zone
good idea but also will onyl server as pantsir counter not good for CAS in any way
after 5 minutes you don’t have a team good luck.
like previously kinda hard when you get stomped by lmurs / kh-38’s and a swarm of 5 to 10 russian tanks on your spawn.
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That depends on personal preference
I personally would just ditch the F/A-18 entirely and go with an F-16 to go strafing or use the F-15E to carpet bomb the enemy spawn with SDBs
You could pick four SLAMs and add the two rocket pods, you probably won’t really need AMRAAMs either way, but depending on the map SLAMs won’t be useful in the first place and the F/A-18E doesn’t seem like a good plane for strafing runs , so I believe using only the F/A-18E limits you quite a lot
People seem to be somewhat succesful by just spamming dumbfire rockets from helis, but I don’t know if that is actually helpful at all lol
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I mean, he was asking for a Pantsir counter
You still bring other guided weapons, the rockets are just there to distract the Pantsir
I meant coordinated teamplay, not relying on randoms
Why would you worry about a Pantsir at that point? Just leave or use spawn protection to get a few free kills
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I definitely agree with F-18 not being a viable aircraft for CAs runs, but I’m just trying to do it for the YouTube video and I’m having a hard time doing so