While we were talking I got this insane spikes hits, truly op
Like fr how you see this and tell me its better than a Kornet.
Which pretty much kills any idea of them adding like the S-1M variant since most of the upgarded Pantsirs only get a better radar and better missles, still only wielding 12
Kornet and HJ-9 just outright have better penetration.
Can’t really find a western ATGM with that kind of pen, but obviously sine everyone is invested in top attack, there’s not neccessarily a reason to have that much pen in the first place.
I honestly have to wonder if Gaijin didn’t model them corretly since the U.S only really has that capibility and it’s mounted on so many vehicles.
It’s FnF, you can keep showing me more replays and screenshots and I won’t change my mind about them
You are expecting a weapon that requires no effort to use whatsoever and usually no risk either to always severely damage or even outright kill its’ target
It doesn’t even have the high cost that CAS has
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That’s why I’m wondering if Gaijin intentionally didn’t give it’s full capibility since pretty much every western vehicle has it. I mean if it did, it would make IFVS not as useless but… I sense an imbalance ethier way you look at it.
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And so it needs to go at lower br then.
The ZT3A2 has 1000mm pen, the HOT-2 has 900mm pen and the TOW-2A has 800mm pen
From my experience all of those have more than enough penetration power and I am genuinely curious how often people run into the problem of a TOW-2A not having enough pen
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Sure, but not SACLOS level BRs
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Why? If we already concluded it performs worst than a saclos missile?
They. Aren’t. Worse.
FnF is inherently better than SACLOS thanks to their lack of risk and the fact that you literally don’t have to do anything except launch them, which you can do on the move
Are you seriously going to suggest that FnF ATGM platforms should be at the same BR as the Desert Warrior, M3A3 and Wiesel 1A2?
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if this is what your realization is supposed to be then i dont know if i am to call you incompetent or incapable of understanding the most simple things known to man.
i am genuinely worried for your future if you cant understand the problem of having unreliable missiles with low amount of stockpile on vehicles with 0 armor.
See a smart person would understand the concept of “easy to die but has good weapons that arent artificially nerfed” but i think i would have better time talking to a wall at this point.
then why the f*ck are you piping up if you dont actually play top tier.
Your entire point is “well i feel like” when people that do use the thing say how it is. Youve literally done less than nothing.
The only Spike vehicle youve played is Vilkas, in which youve got 116 games. Thats it.
I genuinely dont know why you think you are somehow correct on spikes when youve barely used them.
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Considering the average damage it makes, yes. I would be more worried about a Khrizantema-S/Btr-82AT than a Namer if I were a mbt.
Go on, insults surely will help.
I guess people would prefer a game in which low risk equals high reward, would explain why CAS is as overpowered as it currently is.
Because Spikes aren’t top tier only weapons, unless 9.7-10.7 suddenly is top tier
How many matches would I have to play to be able to judge their performance?
Are observations of getting killed by them and friends (and content creators) using them not something that can be taken into account when judging a certain weapon?
Would I have to have used a higher BR Spike platform to be able to judge them, despite them being available at 10.7 and facing 9.7?
Are they all tandem? I don’t recall
I’m just comparing off raw stats, since majority of the playerbase would say Kornet and HJ-9 are the best off raw pen
Brother, this is the easiest man to talk with, you are creating the brick wall.
Agree to disagree, but not a whole crashout.
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You don’t care about other features of Spike platforms, do you?
The regular PUMA is at 10.3, without any kind of ATGMs, the survivability of the Bradley, Wiesel, Warrior, etc is considerably worse than that of the Spike platforms
Type 24/25, CV9030/9035s, VBC, VBCI and M1296 don’t have ATGMs
The Wiesel and the Khrizantema don’t even have guns
Again, I do agree that the Spike platforms could down in BR by one or two steps (depending on the vehicle), but you can’t put them at 9.7 or below just because the FnF ATGMs aren’t free kills
Would you give FnF CAS the same treatment because Spikes, PARS, JAGMs, etc would be worse than Hellfires, AKD-10s, ZT6s, etc according to you?
All of them are tandem
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They are except the HOT-2
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Ah, misremembered that one then, whoops
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