The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

Except the US/NATO Do make such systems. They have quite a few even, Gaijin just hasnt added them with the same old response of “needing adequate counters” its the same BS reasoning they use to justify not adding Python 4 even when every other 4th Gen IR missile is now in game. Stating that when they do so they will have to add the R73M (according to Smin) in order to keep balance. (This is in addition to the fact that the only tech tree that would get primary access to these missiles would consequently be the least played in the game) The US and NATO have many systems designed to intercepting munitions, for starters Germany could get thr SkyRanger which would excellent at the task, Isreal can get Iron Dome, a combat proven system in the realm if intercepting munitions in large wave style saturation attacks. America could get a number of systems most notably the CRAM likely mounted on a trailer. Or a similar trailer with an adapted RIM-7 Sea sparrow for tjr same purpose.

You’re mixing ARB with GRB… and tbf the current 4th Gen IR missiles (AIM-9X/IRIS-T) are just regular 3th gen IRCCM missiles with longer range and DL and TVC… nothing more

Please don’t make me laugh…

All for it, but bouth are extremly close range and the CRAM will run out of ammo very fast… basically nothing will change.

Do you mean RIM-162 ESSM? Because RIM-7 is pritty old at this point and it will be DOA

Also didn’t they immediately remove the Maddog from that new Japanese SPAA when that was the main promotion of it they used in its devblog?

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yep, Tan-SAM Kai is basically 2 Type 81(C) if the radar got destroyed, since the ARH cannot maddog anymore


just spent a match in sky sabre waiting for an aircraft to spawn, seeing a heli, and just watching him fly 8km in a straight line towards me because i literally cannot hit him.

please gaijin either remove multipath or just give me one saclos SAM worth using…

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This is litterally the case for every ARH missile

Which everyone has to use except germany (lucky buggers) and… guess who.

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well the old SACLOS systems are still in the game… but yeah I feel your pain…

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This is why I like the ADATS and ItO for helicopters. It’s just awful trying to lock with anything else

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yeah trust me I think a good 1/3rd of the things that kills me are LMURS. And Kh-38.

I hate to burst the bubble but the Patriot probably won’t be a good as you think in War Thunder. Its radar typically doesn’t rotate because the same radar has search and track and typically faces one way without rotating. Even if you wanted it to the antenna that it uses needs to manually be realigned in order to be able to turn it. Which means it’ll see 120 degrees but have a blind spot of 240 degrees

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There is a more advanced radar which covers 360deg.

True but it’s more so an issue with countries that use the Patriot not including America

I’d rather put my money on Iris-t/SLX it should be more practical in an ingame sense.

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That’s not gonna happen. I’ll sell my pants in an open auction on wt forum if it does.

The boon of the MIM-104 would be the fact that it should not give the target any RWR spike as it is track via missile, meaning the guidance loop it has only bounces off of the missile itself, not the target.

The target would know the radar sees it, but would not get a SARH warning like a normal SARH.

That would be the case if gaijin did not just code the MIM-104 in game as a basic ass SARH missile…

Same deal, the MPQ-53 should also more or less function like a big AESA radar within it’s FOV, a lot like the BUK’s TELAR radars… however knowing gaijin I doubt that would be the case for even the actual AESA upgrade of that radar set.

Feels really weird that in reality the AN/MPQ-64 V4 is probably the best radar the US can field in the context of WT, aside from the stryker M-SHORAD’s 360 AESA set, then again, gaijin did not even model the Spyder’s AESA radar as a AESA so who even knows at this point, seems like only Russian tracking radars are allowed to have AESA functions even if they aren’t AESA.

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There recently was a rollout ceremony at Diehl. … the new combined Iris-T SLM/SLX launcher. So why not. Its physically existing, which is more than certain other ru ingame systems.

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I’m not trying to rude when I say this but the AN/MPQ-53 and AN/MPQ-65 are both PESA, the LTAMDs and the AN/MPQ-65A are the AESAs. But thank you for telling me about the TVM thing, didn’t know that it didn’t alert the target

It has a higher interception rate than any Pantsir in the IRL conflicts tho.

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In any future conflicts as well

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