Simply because those trees dont have anything irl to make up for it. Its just another one off sam system.
So its no surprise Gaijin was able to add the next evolution of the Pantsie since Russia didnt only focus on SAMS but shorads to defend the sams.
The entire point of the Pantsir lineage is defend the actual SAM systems.
Dont ask me why the west hasnt caught on
Youre still focused on SPAA, those trees could absolutely have gotten something else to make up for their bad SPAA but they got nothing. Only russia got something the instant one of their top tier parts was allegedly underperforming.
It is a surprise because this game should be focusing on balance. When you add one vehicle, you need to think about what other nations can bring to the table. Should we really make it historical? It’s not gonna be good
Like what though.
You already got people saying “more bushmaster slop” because for some reason they expect a western ifv to have some form of bushmaster.
Adding a Patriot wouldnt change anything, a better SAM system that still has the same pitfalls as all the other SAMS in game
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That is true but then I could make the argument why all the other nations dont got Type 90 equivalents with 3 second autoloaders.
Whys Japan so special?
I will admit that BUK is absolutely abysmal compared to IRIS-T (in terms of KDR but not so much in interception rates), but I feel like adding a newer Pantsir was an overreaction by Gaijin, at least not without adding the necessary tools to have a proper counter, and I feel like there is nothing Western forces can receive that could overwhelm this new Pantsir system, other than maybe Brimstone 2/3 with mmW seekers.
So we are back to the old status quo of Russia having the best in class in both SPAA and CAS. It is still a SACLOS system at the end of the day and can be taken out like any other, but it is such an overkill system when S1 Pantsir was still more than capable.
This guy right there, he makes a good point. Do read
(This isnt sarcasm)
So can we use the same logic for Brinstones? They were rejected from being in the game and Russia doesn’t have any FnF MMW missiles. So should we get selective on who gets what when other countries can’t offer an equivalent?
Well, theres no real way to counter something that intercepts stuff.
Thats just wishful thinking for a counter that wont really exist.
The AESA radar is going to pick up anything in its direction.
Yoy could say electronic warfare, but the game is also nowhere near ready for that, not by a longshot.
It’s 4 seconds. And reloading rate is a balancing decision not based on sources. Leclerc and type 90 have the same official source but Gaijin gave them different values
The S1 was more then capable, but ive noticed its slowly fallen.
Thats just because the S1 ends up running out of missiles a CAS pilot throws in one pass
If we get HARMs this year, then what could Western forces receive? I feel like whatever they add is going to be negated by the new Pantsir anyway. Russia and Japan would not even need HARMs because they have Kh-38 already, which would be superior in almost every regard.
Its still 4 seconds regardless, every nation has unique stuff or certain focuses.
The real answer maybe woukdve been bigger maps and maybe CAS not being able to carry 1 million things and maybe playing SPAA wouldnt of been so bad.
But at the end of the day, Gaijin isnt gonna stop the game because, “oh this one nation has a special system that nobody else focused on”.
Best bet would be to implement them onto the british apache’s first (limiting them to 12, as 16 can be a bit of overkill due to their attack path), see if they perform well, as they should be good due to them having similar attack path like the lmur’s, but implementing them on typhoons and other jets right now wouldnt be great imo, 6 kh38s are easier to shoot down than 18 IR brimstones, iygwim.
Ofc they’re not, but some form of balancing has to be present. The problem is there is none right now. Honestly if pantsir SMSV wasn’t added, at least all nations were somewhat vulnerable to CAS. rn Russia has the best CAS and SPAA. You can claim that IRIS-T is op, and it is, but guess what Russia also has the best heli that’s still immune to IRIS-T. Basically if one nation to to get a new capability, other nations should expect to recieve something similar or a counter. The last two major updates added amazing new things for Russia and its evident in its high player count that’s been consistent for months now.
The point is that your arguments mention multiple different trees that not necessarily play together while the other side is one tree getting pampered every single update. Even after what you wrote under that its exactly that. Youre still treating 8 tech trees like an equivalent to one. Ofc if you do that the quantity of super strong additions will be similar lol
Like with most things, HARMS are supposed to be used at long range, so these small maps again do make it pointless
BTW, the KH-38MT has no evidence of existing IRL, its a made up missile, including the MTE, which is also made up.
Mock up models exist, which fits Gaijin’s criteria.