The vids show skysabre being unable to intercept slow glide bombs. Any other ARH or SACLOS system cough cough wouldnt have similar issue.
That being said atleast the skysabre is from the ARH systems one of the better ones.
Really interesting data, whats the dataset? Is it all games in those time periods?
Russia making up ~50% of all CAS kills is pretty insane, and paints them clearly as one of the biggest problems top tier ground battles faces…
The overall data shows a pretty problematic picture
It isn’t even surprising to me that the USSR tree makes up around half of all CAS whenby far the most kills and deaths also are made up of USSR vehicles
among other things like having more tank kills then USA and China combined is hilarious.
mfw “pantsir SM SV was a response to more modern CAS” and the more modern CAS was infact russian.
My experience with them has been great and you can keep arguing about it all you want
I’ve made my points and you are free to disagree with them, but I would be lying if I said that my experience with them was bad
Just to make this clear
Sky Sabre should have no problems intercepting them
I knew I wasn’t going insane, why are they even like that in game?
The recent dataset is 1,900 replays from the past week not two, my bad.
You’re also in two of the replays. Match 1 Match 2
Second dataset is 9,600 replays over the past 10 months gathered after major updates.
I’ve posted more stats from the recent one which I’ll link below.
Who are you making this clear for? I know its capable of intercepting things ranging from drones and glide bombs to cruise missiles. Whats the point of this?
Not for you, but for anyone else, who might not know this. Not everyone here has any idea about that system, nor they are expected to, so I wanted to clarify it.
Pantsir SM-SV kills four helicopters but is destroyed only once itself?
Is this correct, or is it a misunderstanding
I mean if you die to a helicopter in this thing it’s the most obvious skill issue there is, you don’t even fight mi-28 lol
Because IRL, under 20km, if you get engaged by a medium range fired and forget (IIR or ARH) SAM, you are pretty much dead
There is no magic multipath, invisible rotor heli, or LDIRCM acting as a force field to save you
Well, there are a few things like Decoys (e.g. ALE-50), that could act sacrificially to effect the defeat of both Radar and IR missiles(a fairly recent development). By seducing the seeker and causing the proximity fuse to action early.
So there are options, just none we’ve seen any sign of being implemented.
Then it becomes a race between ECM, IRCM and ECCM, IRCCM
Unfortunately as per the usual, the weapon always outpaces the countermeasure.
My god…
to be honest, it’s a miracle how japan or other minor nation can have some ±50% win rate when most of the time they are fight against FOTM (flavor of the month)
perfectly balanced nothing to see here
Unfortunately IRL, but tbh in game that would be pretty boring
