The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

Issue is they weren’t played much so they didn’t meet the data cut offs. I’ve lowered the cut off for the data below, but just know the fewer data points a vehicle has the less accurate the stats will be.

K/D to CAS Cut off: 100
Vehicle Ratio Data points
Pantsir SM-SV 4.04 1744
Sky Sabre 3.15 166
FSAF SAMP/T (Mamba) 3.11 259
FSAF SAMP/T 3.05 328
HQ11 2.30 588
IRIS-T SLM 1.96 1245
Pantsir-S1 1.61 2456
OTOMATIC 1.56 182
“BUK-M3” 1.52 858
NASAMS 3 1.51 559
CLAWS 1.48 323
▄ItO 90M 1.40 168
SPYDER 1.37 199
ItO 90M 1.32 220
EldE 98 1.26 190
2S6 1.15 170
CS/SA5 1.15 698
FlaRakRad 1.11 1119
Type 81 (C) 1.08 100
ADATS (M113) 1.07 124
ADATS 0.99 936
Type 03 0.93 108
HQ17 0.83 139
Tan-SAM Kai 0.77 230
Weapons destroyed to CAS deaths Cut off: 100
Vehicle Ratio Data points
Pantsir SM-SV 6.33 2537
FSAF SAMP/T 4.83 472
FSAF SAMP/T (Mamba) 4.57 351
HQ11 3.44 790
Sky Sabre 3.23 169
Pantsir-S1 2.54 3336
NASAMS 3 2.02 674
“BUK-M3” 1.86 973
OTOMATIC 1.70 192
ItO 90M 1.55 242
CLAWS 1.45 319
▄ItO 90M 1.44 171
CS/SA5 1.27 738
SPYDER 1.18 183
Tan-SAM Kai 1.12 275
Type 03 0.89 106
2S6 0.86 147
IRIS-T SLM 0.81 759
FlaRakRad 0.76 932
ADATS 0.63 767
HQ17 0.41 107
EldE 98 0.29 108
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“BUK underperforming” my ass

Sums it up pretty good.
Now would be a good point to remove the Pantsir from the free SPAA pool though.
Or just get rid of that ridicoulus mechanic all together while at it.

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Tor should be their free SPAA, same with China imo.

Especially considering the other nations either have 11.7 or 11.3 SPAAs such as the Flarakrad, Otomatic, ADATS, and the 9.3 Imp Chaparral…

ITO would probably be the best free SPAA then but it’s miles worse than the Pantsir.

Honestly, I’ve never had a problem with the free vehicles you get, it’s just that they should’ve never added the free SPAA along with it. Anything else, sure, but pretty much any SPAA can be used stock.

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The truck one? It is one of the most spammed SPAA mid game and they actually indirectly increases the probability of opposing team reaching nuke requirements by feeding the mbts lol

The total mass of prefabricated fragments (105kg) has far exceeded the total mass of the projectile body (32.5kg).
The 95ya6m charge is 770g, with a total damage of 70,000 fragments. The BUK M3 charge is 50kg, with a total damage of 56,000 fragments
The fragmentation generated by the 95ya6m far exceeds its missile mass and even has higher damage than that of the 9M317MA
He only needs four missiles to destroy an aircraft carrier
Doesn’t anyone think the fragmentation of the 95YA6M is beyond common sense, or did I miss the discussion

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wheres the sky sabre?

Here.

Also funnily enough three of your matches are in the data.

Match 1
Match 2
Match 3

There you have it, people have been complaining the things like arat and tes have so little ce protection that they wouodve been penned by the rpgs they were meant to stop for a while already

Yes, CAS against Russia sooner or later in the game (mostly sooner) always comes down to fighting hordes of free pantsirs.

good to see. british power

oh yeah. well i am a very british main

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Chad vehicle

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very much so. best looking top tier tank no doubt

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Insert IRIS-T SLM wirh a “effective range” of 40km range IRL with ~50km Max.
Game: 40km Max, cant even reach it because of the awfull loft profile which gaijin refuses to change…

This is also another balancing issue. What is each nation’s CAS actually destroying.

These two tables show the percentage of SPAA destroyed to everything each nations CAS is destroying.

Past 2 weeks (1,913 replays)
vehicle Ratio Data points
Great Britain 51.98% 202
Israel 50.23% 215
Japan 49.64% 419
USA 47.7% 1807
France 47.4% 308
Germany 46.97% 760
Italy 46.7% 227
China 43.58% 1402
Sweden 43.01% 272
USSR 37.52% 7446
Past 10 months (9,553 replays)
vehicle Ratio Data points
Sweden 47.19% 1176
Great Britain 44.0% 1450
Germany 43.97% 5970
Japan 42.78% 2153
France 42.26% 3237
Italy 40.39% 1134
China 39.07% 6425
Israel 38.42% 1796
USA 36.57% 14639
USSR 34.35% 33840

I don’t think I really understand how I’m supposed to interpret these tables

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Think of it as an obvious shift in prioritization, and that SPAA are more common.

Also if I had to guess there has been a commensurate decrease in how effective CAS has been at clearing opposition. So they keep getting shut out or needing to expend more of their stores to achieve the same number of kills so the effective stow kills has decreased.

it be interesting if it was also compared to which nation is being killed by which over the same dataset. But that may well be much more involved.