The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

We would be worse off for it

better reload for an incredible 4 rounds if you have a good crew if we compare armour to mobility ratio.
the MOST armoured challenger 2
has worse armour and is slower than the 90M

but yeah 10 degrees of gun depression is nice although the gun handling is worse both horizontally and vertically
not to mention the worse round and worse survivability because of relikt bullshit and autoloader and fuel tank bullshit

LMAO

Experted CR2 without RR still has a 7.1s reload, which matches 90M. Better for 4 rounds is better than being worse all the time.

BN is slower than the 90M, mb, should’ve specified 2E.

Leclerc, ariete and challenger are trash. Russian too tier tanks are mid.

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Please refer to this post. This guy is a real Chad and took the time to develop his thoughts after checking the bias by himself.

The bias does exist, it’s not paranoia.

what CAS plane is better than the SM2?
Euro fighter and rafale, my number one clappers who won’t leave me alone in game hell I’ve been using the F-16CM PoBIT and that’s feeling like bias to me but I’m not an Air player.

what helicopter is better than the MI28NM?
All helicopters are annoying if they have fire and forget missiles, but yeah the MI28NM has stronger missiles.

what SPAA is better than the SM-SV?
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what literally anything is better than the BMPT?
TKX, STRV B+ and even Abrams with ace crew. Don’t get me started on that rat HSTVL

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You don’t even have 90M.

18x worse hellfire monster

As long as you’re having fun man, I just know if I see that profile photo I’m going to be sniffing around the heli pads mid game for sure >.>

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And you haven’t even spaded the BN or the 2E… Your point?

I have all the necessary mods to make the tank function. 70 games in both is enough.

If you’re saying the M1A1 is better than the 90M should it be the same br or lower? maybe, but my problem is that the capabilities between 11.7 and 12.7 tanks are so similar, 12.7’s are mostly overtiered imo.

Take the M1A1 and the Sep for ex:
M1A1 is better at:
Mobility

And the SEP is better at:
Slightly better shell
better thermals (gen 1 v gen 2)
Slightly better optics
Commander optics ig (useless)
tusk (straight downgrade)

Allat for a 1.0 br difference

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i was more talking about the TES being heavier slower and still having worse armour because gaijin is idiotic

also not to mention and this is A BIG PART of it russia faces america and germany quite often and german mains and american mains dont know there ass from there elbow and non pen a t90 most the time

britain faces russia and a t90m having way better protection and being a smaller tank with a lower profile and better gun handling has the advantage 99% of the time

And i’m sure it and the 90M’s performance are totally unrelated to you having better performance in the 90M than in either of the two challengers you mentioned…

Ill be baised but ka 52 best heli

You forgot the turret improvement.
I dont think we should downtier all 12.7s, maybe some of the subpar ones, though M1A1 is more of a 12.0 than an 11.7.

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They should atleast let you remove the armor.

This isn’t Russia’s fault. Its the US/Ger players.

False. BN MAYBE, but 2E has the advantage.

m1a1 is a 12.0-12.3 tank at 11.7
the Clickbait
the HC
pretty much all the 12.0 abrams should be 12.7

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Sep had much better armor, as it gets the ha armor