The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

hey but don’t forget even with all that hand holding… it still gets clapped too frequently at 12.7 so I don’t think Gajins done.

The problem with LOS is that if the target breaks LOS, you can’t do anything.

NLOS like IRIS-T can still hunt them down and kill them.

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Tank > SPAA yes, I just know some maps this will camp the closest capture point and have infinite ammo but at least it will only take me 3 airfield landings or 3 jets to deplete it’s ammo until it only needs to rely on the cannons haha

removing the ammo box wont do much considering 48 missiles is still more than enough for dealing with cas the whole game

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If it takes 48 interceptors doesnt it give up all its actual missiles?

They should make SPAA cost scale with tanks tbh.

thats what buk is supposed to deal with or strela
basically just ask adats or the euro truck

I’m not going to waste my time proving something that won’t go anywhere.

The only publically available pictures of TKB-1055 is on Pantsir-SM and SMD, but gaijin won’t care because “SM-SV = SM therefore it can use TKB-1055.”

Strela not at all.
BUK maybe, but in its current state it struggles to get much of anything done.

Overall, I think instead of the SM-SV, they should’ve fixed BUK.

Yeah, if you go with the full 48 you give up the 95Ya6s

I think they should’ve made Buk-M3 SACLOS instead of fAkeRH, would’ve been sillier and equally as wrong.

or better bring in true air power to all other nations and call it Ground Realistic Air Battles.

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true even if its good enough what i have seen in particular compered to its competition

Most other SAMs can’t deal with FnF helis for various reasons, be it lack of range, slow missiles, inability to get a lock on helis, lacking ammunition, etc

good luck finding sources (gaijin approved) that prove its stealthier than a su57

they also dont have a radar for each vehicle like the buk

We can compare it to IRIS-T or Aster for example:

Assuming it takes 4 95Ya6Ms, and 32 interceptors. It has 32 ready to fire against munitions, 4 against aircraft.

Pantsir players would probably take more 95Ya6Ms though, maybe 6 and 24.

IRIS/Aster have 32 missiles they can effectively use against aircraft and munitions, but have 16 ready to fire.

Now Pantsir does have the advantage of guns, which are definitely useful.

the most radical response would be to just give it pantsir missiles and call it a day

would still be a much better aa given its not mounted on a giant slow truck(also the platform is more stable to fire 30mm)

This is why China should be given FK-3000, a 30mm with HE-TF, with large and tiny interceptors… It’d be peak…

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If only more NATO doctrines followed Russian SHROAD designs.

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