The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

thats what buk is supposed to deal with or strela
basically just ask adats or the euro truck

I’m not going to waste my time proving something that won’t go anywhere.

The only publically available pictures of TKB-1055 is on Pantsir-SM and SMD, but gaijin won’t care because “SM-SV = SM therefore it can use TKB-1055.”

Strela not at all.
BUK maybe, but in its current state it struggles to get much of anything done.

Overall, I think instead of the SM-SV, they should’ve fixed BUK.

Yeah, if you go with the full 48 you give up the 95Ya6s

I think they should’ve made Buk-M3 SACLOS instead of fAkeRH, would’ve been sillier and equally as wrong.

or better bring in true air power to all other nations and call it Ground Realistic Air Battles.

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true even if its good enough what i have seen in particular compered to its competition

Most other SAMs can’t deal with FnF helis for various reasons, be it lack of range, slow missiles, inability to get a lock on helis, lacking ammunition, etc

good luck finding sources (gaijin approved) that prove its stealthier than a su57

they also dont have a radar for each vehicle like the buk

We can compare it to IRIS-T or Aster for example:

Assuming it takes 4 95Ya6Ms, and 32 interceptors. It has 32 ready to fire against munitions, 4 against aircraft.

Pantsir players would probably take more 95Ya6Ms though, maybe 6 and 24.

IRIS/Aster have 32 missiles they can effectively use against aircraft and munitions, but have 16 ready to fire.

Now Pantsir does have the advantage of guns, which are definitely useful.

the most radical response would be to just give it pantsir missiles and call it a day

would still be a much better aa given its not mounted on a giant slow truck(also the platform is more stable to fire 30mm)

This is why China should be given FK-3000, a 30mm with HE-TF, with large and tiny interceptors… It’d be peak…

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If only more NATO doctrines followed Russian SHROAD designs.

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and yet the ASTER/IRIS cant deal with LDIRCM helis easily the pantsir can. also has missiles PURELY for intercepting munitions

Helis are their own problem and need to be modelled correctly (LDIRCM and Radar Signature).
Missiles that are purely designed for interception are not a pro on their own, the sheer count of them with ammo box is the main advantage.

I meant that reply assuming the SM-SV has its ammobox removed.

I mean, there are examples like the mobile Phalanxes (MLBPWS and HVSD/ADAMS) and multiple SHORADs that, while having no interceptor missiles (just regular SAMs instead), are designed to be able to intercepts incoming ordnance using their guns (Skyranger 30 and M-SHORAD)

There also are the DRACO and Skyranger 35, but those probably wouldn’t be very good in WT



Could have got more kills but game ended due to 60 total kills

Everytime I see that photo on a player profile I already know I am going to play CAS specifically to kill an MI-28NM lol

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Everything else is wtv, but:

Just stop. You know you’re wrong on this. You don’t even have the 90M/BVM and I have every single top tier nation in the game. We’ve gone over this before. BVM is mid at best, and 90M is the worst 12.7 in the game.

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best top tier nation??? brother what? please prove it cause I can tell you it’s 100% not and super reliant on it’s allies.