The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

or better bring in true air power to all other nations and call it Ground Realistic Air Battles.

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true even if its good enough what i have seen in particular compered to its competition

Most other SAMs can’t deal with FnF helis for various reasons, be it lack of range, slow missiles, inability to get a lock on helis, lacking ammunition, etc

good luck finding sources (gaijin approved) that prove its stealthier than a su57

they also dont have a radar for each vehicle like the buk

We can compare it to IRIS-T or Aster for example:

Assuming it takes 4 95Ya6Ms, and 32 interceptors. It has 32 ready to fire against munitions, 4 against aircraft.

Pantsir players would probably take more 95Ya6Ms though, maybe 6 and 24.

IRIS/Aster have 32 missiles they can effectively use against aircraft and munitions, but have 16 ready to fire.

Now Pantsir does have the advantage of guns, which are definitely useful.

the most radical response would be to just give it pantsir missiles and call it a day

would still be a much better aa given its not mounted on a giant slow truck(also the platform is more stable to fire 30mm)

This is why China should be given FK-3000, a 30mm with HE-TF, with large and tiny interceptors… It’d be peak…

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If only more NATO doctrines followed Russian SHROAD designs.

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and yet the ASTER/IRIS cant deal with LDIRCM helis easily the pantsir can. also has missiles PURELY for intercepting munitions

Helis are their own problem and need to be modelled correctly (LDIRCM and Radar Signature).
Missiles that are purely designed for interception are not a pro on their own, the sheer count of them with ammo box is the main advantage.

I meant that reply assuming the SM-SV has its ammobox removed.

I mean, there are examples like the mobile Phalanxes (MLBPWS and HVSD/ADAMS) and multiple SHORADs that, while having no interceptor missiles (just regular SAMs instead), are designed to be able to intercepts incoming ordnance using their guns (Skyranger 30 and M-SHORAD)

There also are the DRACO and Skyranger 35, but those probably wouldn’t be very good in WT



Could have got more kills but game ended due to 60 total kills

the SM-SV should just be removed considering russia is the best top tier nation. and no i dont want to hear your bullshit about the leopards cause i quite frankly dont care

the SM-SV has put russia back on top for SPAA after they got dethroned for not that long incase you dont remember the pantsir S1 was dominant for 2-3 years

the BMPT is still a huge issue considering russia is the only nation with a high winrate from 10.7-11.7 at the moment

The BVM and 90M are both decent tanks the BVM being amazing cause it has good armour and mobility and the 90M isnt that great but the main issue is gaijins refusal to fix relikt so you can consistently pen the side of russian tanks which are the only tanks ingame at top tier which have this issue

russia already had the best helicopter in the game and thats backed up now by no NATO helicopter being able to take off without being swarmed by the SM-SV

the BUK-M3 not being the best SPAA in the game was the only thing keeping russia from being complete and utter bullshit compared to everyone else

Everytime I see that photo on a player profile I already know I am going to play CAS specifically to kill an MI-28NM lol

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Everything else is wtv, but:

Just stop. You know you’re wrong on this. You don’t even have the 90M/BVM and I have every single top tier nation in the game. We’ve gone over this before. BVM is mid at best, and 90M is the worst 12.7 in the game.

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best top tier nation??? brother what? please prove it cause I can tell you it’s 100% not and super reliant on it’s allies.

what CAS plane is better than the SM2?
what helicopter is better than the MI28NM?
what SPAA is better than the SM-SV?
what literally anything is better than the BMPT?

Lol. Not even close. There are non-ccs far better than him. Kai_TG is a better CAS cc, but he doesnt upload often.

The BVM is an amazing tank that doesnt fit your playstlye and the 90M sucks yeah but the armour is annoying and even then its not just straight up the worst 12.7 considering the challengers and arietes have been gimped more than anything

The USSR/Russian trees top tier MBTs are trash, CAS is the only thing they have

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No, I’m not trying to defend their CAS and AA power

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