The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

Wasn’t SPYDER buffed in the last major patch ?

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Still weak

IIRC I saw it hold M1.0 at like 25-30km away in some devserver thread, so we will see how good it really is in a month or so.

If you check small it will only show small, and won’t filter aa missiles or rockets, only small bombs i think. also it doesn’t really ‘filter’ them it only hides them, you can still lock on them, which is very stupid imo. especially while using tws or the track radar like a pantsir, you are still able to lock onto friendlies even when its set to only show enemies.

Anyway I recommend to only hide your own friendlies, leave the rest on

I can dogfight nicely in Su-27SM which doesn’t have TVC, i won half the duels i fought with somebody using the Rafale in my Su-30SM2
If Russia doesn’t have something, it’s braindead players.

and idea to counterrest Pantsir SM-SV would be, at least for Germany and France (maybe Sweden), to add HFK/KV for FlaRakRad and ItO.

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The things that are needed are buffed SHORADs/mobile CIWS vehicles and a nerf for all helis

Better SACLOS missiles won’t solve the actual problem

my man do you understand the HFK/KV its a fla rak rad thing only, and it had to overcome massive improvements such as FCS and radar to have a proper working missile for it, its not as easy to add it to the ITO

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so the new Pantsir is not an actual problem tho it uses better SACLOS missiles.
i’m pretty sure that, for the current enviroment toptier has rn, it would help a lot to have more than 1 nation with a hypersonic missile, after all CAS is what ruins GRB cuz it’s so good.

can the ItO carry Roland RM5?

You must be ragebaiting, this can’t be serious. “How can u prove the one ingame is not a later variant” It is legit the first produced T-90M variant (proryv-3), the later ones have other names.

“Dawg somebody’s a little too angry cuz i want something he doesn’t want.” Dude it doesn’t exist on it, whats so hard to understand

I think these giant turret baskets shouldn’t have been added in the first place, they ruin the top tier experience, one penetrating shot, boom youre knocked out. But the thing is, when it is added to every western nation except 2, then russia should get it as well. Most of the parts that are modeled have nothing to do with the actual turret rotation system

Every western tank except the leo 2a7 are glass cannons

“Tell me what points i’m mistaken, since u’re so smart.” You didn’t read this huh

The problem with the Pantsir is it’s ability to shoot down hundreds of incoming missiles and bombs while also working as a medium range SAM

The Pantsir needs LOS to deal with helis, just like other SACLOS SAMs

The things that are needed to counter helis is a (L)DIRCM nerf, proper radar and heat signatures for helis and blufor systems that can properly intercept munitions, not some SACLOS missiles that might be able to catch a heli

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still wasnt mounted on the ITO and gaijin’s logic on “a platform can use it hence every other platform should use it too” its just a thing for lazy copy and paste and balance

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Best we could hope for is the 4-tube variant of Roland with HFK, we would still be bottlenecked by the radar lock range. HFK has as much range as the new Pantsir missile, but it is held back by Roland’s radar set.

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4 tubes, surely this will save the blufor nations

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there’s not a “Proryv-4/Proryv-5” T-90M, Proryv-3 is the latest and most advanced tank Russia has, after that there’s T-90M2 with better reverse speed but that’s a completely different model.

they had turret baskets irl, Gaijin is just adding what they should have had a long time ago, russian tanks don’t have turret baskets irl, just autoloaders, which would as much limit the traverse since the autoloader is not especifically made to turn the turret (iirc nor even connected to the horizontal drive), but the weight of it would make it harder to turn, not stop it completely.

M1A2 SEP V2
Strv 122B+
btw Leos aren’t from Western, they’re from Eastern.

Not saying it is the savior, but man, it would be such an upgrade over VT-1 and having 2 missiles ready to fire. Mach 7 speeds are insane, it would erase most planes in less than 5 seconds.

isn’t it limited to 12km as much?

Oh it would be great against planes for sure, just not against the helis, which are the actual problem

Most helicopter pilots could not even blink before being shot down, just imagine a missile traveling at 2400 m/s when most helipads are around 4 kilometers away.