submit this as a suggestion, sounds like a good idea
Would love to see this but i wonder how hard it would be to split. Would Gaijin would probably make it too generalized like making Bullpups and Mavericks be in the same category. It also raises the question of CCRP and CCIP and if using them with dumb bombs should be considered ‘guided’ or if they would fall under the same category as a WW2 dive bomber
Bullpups and Mavericks both shine at different BRs, so having them both in the same class makes sense.
Same goes for CCRP and CCIP. It’s only really relevant between 7.0 and 9.7.
That really doesnt solve the CCRP/CCIP issue
It’s not an issue though. We see CCRP and CCIP at a BR where SPAA is becoming too strong, so this would be a great way to buff 8.3-9.7 CAS.
But theres an argument to be made that CCRP/CCIP would fall into the “guided” catergory and wouldnt allowed and “unguided” options for higher tier jets
This is just about the armaments themselves, not the planes.
The ballistic computers on the planes increases the effectiveness of the armament
Are you trying to make Guided A2G same SP or the Unguided A2G cheaper?
They’re at a BR where SPAA is also buffed so it balances out.
I’m saying guided A2G and unguided A2G should not effect the SP cost of each other
Youre completely missing the point, it blurs the lines between guided and unguided
What?? Guided A2G shall always be a little more expensive then the unguided one.
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No not really. There is a very fine line between guided and unguided munitions. The only difference is the plane that carries em.
Dude, I’m not saying they should be same price. I’m saying spawning one should not increase the price of spawning the other.
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Yep. back when the Tornado GR1 was one of the best CAS aircraft Britain could run. It always annoyed me that taking guided bombs cost the exact same as taking unguided bombs, despite the obvious and significant difference in risk/reward for both weapon types.
As a result. I never took unguided bombs. It simply wasnt worth it. If they had cost less. Even just a little. Then there would have been a reason to do so.
Imo SP does need an overhaul in terms of loadout:
- Remove SP cost for most A2A weapons and reduce the cost for Fox-3s
- vary SP cost from BR to BR (unguided weapons being on par with guided weapons at lower BRs, but becoming cheaper at higher BRs)
- At high BR, unguided weapons should cost less than guided weapons
- Vary SP cost based upon quantity taken
- Have SP Cost be affected by mix and not just the most expensive item attached (some aircraft can take a powerful combo of weapons, but this isnt factored into the spawn cost)
- Proactively increase the SP cost for specific weapons as a balancing tool.
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There really isnt much of a difference betweena bomb dropped by CCRP and a GNSS guided bomb
Just tossing GPS guided bombs into a pile with all other guided weapons is better imo than what we have right now.
You are misunderstanding and oversimplifying everything I say
I think you’re overcomplicating the issue.
As someone who enjoys playing AA, CAS is just too expensive. There’s often matches in top tier where there’s absolutely no planes that spawn so I’ve just wasted 10 minutes doing nothing
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I thought this is how it would work in the first place and found it to be a good middle ground, to not take extrem powerful loadouts twice.
But this is just ridiculous. As predicted, wasted countless of hours to get a figher and a striker, just to take the fighter because it does everything better, most of the time.
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