The fact that it can jam all incoming missiles and somehow fool one of the most modern IIR missiles in the world is laughable, the implementation feels like an insult to the players who grinded out SLM/IRIS-T.
At most, it would be able to jam one missile (not like that even matters, since IOG+DL would take over the guidance method if the seeker is somehow damaged) and just fly straight through the cockpit of the Mi-28.
And the DLIRCCM dazzler is placed at the bottom to protect against MANPADs so IRIS-T wouldn’t even be affected by it because of its lofting.
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You will notice it, but it needs to fly 95 km before a modern air defense system can shoot it down.
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That’s a a two edged sword, it takes too long for the system to arrive on station. The target has left and the Lancet is then expended on a secondary target.
Air defence systems defeat Lancet/can even jam the frequency it is operating on and they have done so. A
gain Lancet is essentially a long range TV guided missile. It’s not new or revolutionary.
Gepard radar is fine and has been put to good use intercepting drones and missiles. Lancet flies at 130ish mph depending on altitude version (Lancet 3 is larger and heavier than Lancet 1) and power requirements. It really is a simple interception for the Gepard system.
Flying higher increases battery consumption and more importantly increases likelihood of detection. lancet also needs a drone to operate with it, they are usually guided on to target by another Russian drone. as Lancets nose mounted camera lacks the resolution of a conventional recon drone. Shoot down the recon drone and the Lancet is essentially blind, especially if the thing it has been launched to kill has done what it needed to do and has left the AO.
It’s a helicopter dude. It’s not a jet. It maxes out at like 180 mph.
Plus I don’t want to hear it. You know how many times in every helo br I’ve even been shot down by a superior spaa / planes camping the helo pads?
Like for once the helis are usuable to a degree.
Pars came before all, years before all. I’m sick of this “Russia has an OP weapon now, even though others had IR F&F systems, now it’s a problem, but only for them”
It was objectivety worse in the sense of being a lot more manageable as a whole for both SPAA’s and jets. Don’t be biased for Russia mate.
Especially if you were on more open maps, your tech would just evaporate.
Yeah guess what LMUR does lol, just that it can ignore IR missiles, has more range, has better kill potential due to its warhead, and the platform is better, lol.
You people keep bringing up how something used to be in the past to argue that something even worse in the present is actually fine for the game as if that somehow excuses LMUR and NM being broken as shit,
Yeah that’s me hunting MIs with my brimstones, because that’s the only thing they are great at
The problem is not that Russia has it, the problem is that it is again based on either ridiculous overperformance compared to irl or others being artificially gimped. Why can a bottom mounted LDIRCM affect missiles through the heli itself? Why are the LMURs the only AGMs that correctly loft?
Because both helis will spawn close, dump their agms and land. There isn’t a lick of difference besides: LMUR having a better chance to kill its target on a successful hit.
Let’s give them the benefit of the doubt, even if it were to somehow jam the IIR seeker, the missile would just fallback to IOG+DL, I don’t think Diehl engineers would have overlooked this possibility, they 100% gave the missile the ability to switch to other guidance methods on demand.
Because both helis will spawn close, dump their agms and land. There isn’t a lick of difference besides: LMUR having a better chance to kill its target on a successful hit.
UHT will die (no magical force field)
If it manages to not die within 5 seconds, it will get at most 2 kills (PARS is bad at killing things)
NM has the ability to strike from further out, whether the player makes use of it is up to them but it’s an advantage.
The do the same exact thing!
Last I checked the KHT is a pump and die heli, the NM is a pump and pump and pump because LDIRCM lol.
So yeah it would just negate all forms of jamming, Diehl engineers aren’t stupid. The IRCCM of the Mi-28 and AH-64 were meant for simpler threats like Iglas/Strelas/Stinger style MANPADs. Not 5th gen IIR missiles.
The complaints are not about working or not working IRCM. The complains are that the MI28NM is stronger than it should be, because it’s LDIRCM overperforms even harder than the Z10s/64Es and because LMURs are the only AGMs that get correct lofting for some reasons