The MI28NM problem

Yes, it’s called Lock-On-Jam. It is an actual anti-LDIRCM ability of IRIS-T.

And if everything fails it still has home-on-jam just like every 5th gen ir missile.

So yeah it would just negate all forms of jamming, Diehl engineers aren’t stupid. The IRCCM of the Mi-28 and AH-64 were meant for simpler threats like Iglas/Strelas/Stinger style MANPADs. Not 5th gen IIR missiles.

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The complaints are not about working or not working IRCM. The complains are that the MI28NM is stronger than it should be, because it’s LDIRCM overperforms even harder than the Z10s/64Es and because LMURs are the only AGMs that get correct lofting for some reasons

Gaijin: struggles to model LOFTing for any and all NATO AGM/ATGMs since 2019
Also Gaijin: codes it perfectly for LMUR

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And Hellfires still hug the ground like it’s an anti-ship missile lol. Oh Gaijin…

Weird, my Mi-28nm should be “iMmUne tO SPaa” yet I think I died to the iris-t first time I took it out after getting the LMUR.
After failing to lock anything at 5 miles distance… on a completely open map.

Or the time Aim-9x killed me.

So I started playing it like all the other helis before it. Hide behind hills, pop up, fire, go back down. And suddenly I started to live!

LDIRCM either works badly, or doesn’t work at all for me. But clearly I must be biased right? Right??

Also that ranging argument is invalid. The IR won’t even lock as far out as you can fire it.

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This happens with PARS and all other heli AGMs, this isn’t exclusive to LMUR and doesn’t excuse the fact that it’s a 1 hit K/O once it connects

Yeah and out of those missiles that connected, 8/10 probably failed, it’s RNG weather it hits the blind spot that isn’t protected by the force field, don’t try to downplay it like it’s a broken feature.

New coding for the newest missile is likely the culprit here.

Additionally, he’ll yah I’m gonna bring up IRCM not working! There’s no way stingers, iglas, etc should be able to lock my heli with such ease, but they do it anyways.

And you want to talk broken helis?

Mi-28A for Sweden is egregious. That thing has an actual force field. I launched all 8 Fim-92K proxy fuze stingers at that man, and he would dump like 2 flares and be okay.

I went through EVERY Russian helicopter vs The USA ones, VS this lone Swedish Mi-28A with my buddy.

Do you know what we found out?

  1. MAWs didn’t defeat IR munitions
  2. IRCM didn’t defeat IR munitions
  3. Russian helicopters were easier to lock even with all the IR jamming equipment on them.
  4. The Mi-28A took 20% closer distance to lock, but merely turning slightly and dropping 1 flare saved the helicopter.

Vs all other helis, the Mi-28A is the only “broken” one I’ve ever found.

I have had 2 LMUR not “1 Hit K/O” on a high maneuvering tank.
Everyone sitting still? Oh yeah they died.

Dog you can say it’s broken all day long, if I can over in open space and not die I’ll believe you, until then, I’ll keep hiding behind the hills.

We’ve had this conversation before, you either are a pathological liar or have some other condition, you can hover still and not be killed by IRIS-T 99% of the time.

You are straight up trying to downplay the Mi-28 dawg.

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JAGM and the Chinese one are new as well aren’t they?

Rightfully so but the topic of the thread is the MI28NM which grossly overperforms in the LDIRCM department. Just like geometry wise

I kinda don’t since I only have German helis so I only know how they behave.
However I do know how playing the IRIST SLM against the new helis works and it’s not the performance of a 2020s IR missile

They don’t even own the SLM or UHT. They have no idea what they are talking about, crying crocodile tears when they get killed by the SLM when all the missiles they got fired at probably failed, but only one of them connecting was enough to convince them it wasn’t overperforming. The mental gymnastics of this guy are straight up out of toddler.

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Great we can have the conversation as many times as we need to.

I am not a “pathological liar” because my experience is different from yours.

If you have the IRIS-T I’d be glad to test your theory. Even if your one of those NATO players who insult everyone who disagrees with you.

  1. JAGM is a hellfire at the end of the day right?
  2. You only have German helis, and have no experience flying the Mi-28NM or other Russian helis.

I think that a bit krass, most of us only have limited experience with all 10 tech trees.
Ignoring subjective anecdotes in favor of objective stuff like the LDIRCMs overperforming, IIr missiles underperforming and most AGMs not lofting results in a much better discussion

Do you really think Gaijin modeled the new JAGMs based on the old hellfires mechanic wise? They probably recycled the model but everything else is completely different.

And I would argue that playing the IRIS T SLM gives me more expertise on that topic since I actually know how many missiles I fired towards a MI28NM and how many actually hit. And how that compares to all the other helis i face

Today on things that never happened. Weird tbh how you just always defend Russia tho ;)

Considering I have most nations at top tier. Without counting premiums, and you, and @ItsOnyy do not, in fact, @ItsOnyy has pretty much only played Germany, bar the few rank 1 and event vehicles he has for Russia.

Which is precisely why I don’t take other’s opinions over these matters seriously.