The MI28NM problem

If several people have similar experiences to a perceived problem, then why should those personal experiences be completely discounted for a statistical average? The average is comprised of everyone’s experiences whether they be good or bad. Personal experiences shouldn’t be discounted when they are the basis for those statistics.

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I’m glad you’re so sure about it but that doesn’t need to be the case. Your experience doesn’t have to be the objective truth.

Global stats are holding thousands of experiences thus it definitely can do a better job of telling us how things are on average than a few random dudes on a forum.

Its not taken out of his ass. Its like this EVERY day i play. If russia has a winrate of 40%, thats a skill issue. Thats not our problem what so ever. They need to fix flightpath of EVERY spaa and Spikes from IFVs cause they made them useless. Thought the game was about real tanks, planes and helis. Not Cartoonish buffs to ANY nation cause they suffer low winrate. Im getting frustrated and mad every day now. Not even fun to play, feels like a race to hold my WR up. Might aswell play Russia soon cause of the OP LMUR spam. If u cant see the BIAS, u dont want to cause u main that nation.

OH and i forgot every time my dart blow through T90 and T80s ammo carusel and do 0 damage. We all know they blow their turret up 100 m in the air IRL.

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Because a singular experience has way less information about something than a full picture that already has included the aforementioned singular experience ?

This is false, just like most of your post.

My problem with that is overall general statistics tend to hide information since they are an average generalization. Take naval statistics for example. Several low tier premium ships had horrible stats because bots were using them to farm SL. That means by your argument those ships should receive BR changes and buffs due to that generalized performance. This is why you simply cannot discount personal experiences.

If about vehicle I owned and you don’t? my knowledge has more value than you that for sure at least i know the actual performance with my own hand
you on the other hand don’t yet you act like you know more about vehicle you don’t own more than people who actually playing it firsthand
in this case helicopter you think yourself know more than me and other people who owned it without touching anything but German starter heli
while i have top of the line heli for four nations
if you own same heli as i am then sure you opinion might have more value, but you don’t you have nothing but your god stats
so, your opinion about Heli weight nothing compared to people who play heli regularly.
like my opinion about ship and naval battle weight nothing when i’m talking about ship and naval mode to the people who actually playing it.

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If a SINGLE vehicle is allowing players on multiple occasions to control the outcomes of battles, get high amounts of kills, etc, then that vehicle should be looked at for balancing. Look at what happened with the Coelian. It wasn’t widely used for years due to removal, but the moment it got its ammunition massively buffed, it skyrocketed in performance and got a 0.7 BR increase within weeks.

I doubt top tier TT helicopters are played by bots.
Naval stats are definitely the least accurate as Gaijin literally puts multiple AI controlled vehicles in matches so people would actually get in a match in less than 5 minutes.

For reasons mentioned above I wouldn’t even talk about ships in that way.
Not like I care about that dead mode anyways, so it’s actually better for everyone.

Not the case if I have global stats in my hands.
You don’t know the actual performance, all you know is how it performs in your hands.

You still don’t understand I’m using superior information to yours.

You’re a lost cause I’m afraid.
My stats which are global ones have much more weight to it than your own anecdotes.

I’m not referring to Gaijin’s bots, I am referring to bots created by players to farm SL. All generalized stats are going to have inaccuracies because they cannot account for every variable, that’s what makes generalized stats unreliable as you stated. Personal experiences can account for the missing variables, and should be looked at on a case by case basis. In any case Gaijin’s own stats they they are able to see are going to be the most superior, as stats pulled by places like Statshark can only go so far. If you want to have an opinion on a subject such as this, you should not only reference public information but your own personal experience. Personal experience will shape your opinion on the matter. If you discount everyone’s opinions, then you are not engaging in a healthy discussion.

And ?
Vehicle getting a massive buff should definitely be showcased in the global stats, which it was.

Oh about heli I owned i know more than you who don’t own any that for sure.

no you don’t you are stat cult that think all you all know everything more than anyone about vehicle you don’t own

no that you

other people stats not your
you know nothing and think you know it all go ahead grind some heli and come back you opinion will weigh more.

I know.

And all vehicles will have that inaccuracies of their own, it’s not just bound to a single vehicle we’re discussing. Naval stats are inherently unreliable as we know for a fact that AI controlled players are present in that mode and can skew the stats.

This doesn’t need to be the case, as you definitely can get your opinion on something just by looking at thousands of other opinions.

For example, I don’t need to use .22 LR to see it penetrates less than 5.56 as experiences of thousands of people thought me just that.

But I’m not doing that as their opinions are already accounted for in stats that I’m showing.

Most of my posts? LOL bro this is my first since ages ago. LMUR is totally broken. 1 shot 1 kill. Have not seen anyone survive a LMUR this far.
The trajectory of US/EU missiles are just plain wrong and u know it. They go top-down, not diagonal so armor blocks. They nerfed Spikes, PARS and Trigats. They would eat a tank for breakfast IRL. Think the scientists know what they are doing. Either ur a fanboy or a bot.

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I have a feeling that you haven’t read through the comments. None of them mention that people avoid hellfires because it’s copy paste…

Yet again proving my point, The hellfire’s only pros, don’t outweigh the cons nor balance it.

Wrong analogy, unless you’re insinuating the hellfires are decent…

I know doing an additional ounce of research is hard for you, but you can look at the missile’s characterisitcs here: Guided weaponry data (in-game values) Honorable mention for Jaek_ for making amazing videos on missile on YouTube If you want to reach enlightment, then you have to spade the Italian heli line, no talisman/ premium/ boosters - Google Spreadsheets

please show me evidence that hellfires are on the same level when it comes to AT duties.


Seems to me that you can’t accept the truth…


What’s funny is your evidence is based off of looking at global stats and analyzing it the wrong way.

It’s not about if you know more about it than me, it’s about if your opinion is always the objective truth, which simply isn’t the case.

“Cult” you’re trying so hard to dismiss despite it containing much bigger dataset with thousands of experiences already built in. Just perfect.

My stats in a way that I’m using them.
They still do have more weight than your singular experience, sorry not sorry.

Since everyone is insisting on generalized stats, here’s Statshark. Notice a trend here?
I really want to see what October’s stats will look like.





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Apparently you are struggling to read, which is a common occurrence on this forum sadly.