Calling the T80-BVM Mediocre is Crazy…
Gotta be my best performing top tier tank. And the most forgiving.
(just checked your profile IG, how can you know all these things when all you have ever played is the soviet tree and dont posess any of the vehicles we are complaining about here)
Agreed, and this has been the case for a long time, however (and as you mentioned) the OP Nato tech receives their due balancing nerfs (eg. F-15E/I drag and thrust nerf post launch, PARS/SPIKE performance, Starstreaks, domestic IR missiles, 2A7V spall liner nerf to name a few).
My issue with the russian counterparts is that the only nerfs they tend to receive are BR centered, as opposed to performance nerfs like with NATO tech, and that fuels the ‘hurr durr russian bias’ cycle, as there is a lack of logic between the two
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There are actually more nations in the game than Russia and the US
They shouldnt be but i also dont think that non-russian tanks should be nerfed artificially just so russian tanks get to keep up.
Working anti air round (compared to AHEAD) and a questionable APFSDS.
Id love to see that.
Love to see that as well.
Yes because thats where the bias is. Russian equipment largely cant keep up with western so Gaijin bends the rules that the russian tree doesnt get left behind. Russia being mid at medium to low tier is a br issue not a counterproof for bias
You can’t have good faith conversation with these kinds of people especially when they starts pull out stat to shaming other people you know those people can’t be reason with.
I’ve played the Chinese tree as well lmao what
Dont argue with that guy, he doesnt have any of the vehicles discussed here lmao, also seems to suffer from a massive skill issue on most of his vehicles, not that im judging xD
They’ll get theirs soon? You can’t expect gaijin to add it to everyone at once. Although they should really go fix the cm502kg because it’s very bad.
Hardly any tank is artificially nerfed. For example the leopards are definitely not.
Ok but it still doesn’t make it a good light tanks tho. It has benefits and drawbacks. For example it’s quite slow as a light tanks. And I’ll find you sources later.
Tell me which tanks are artificially nerfed
That Challenger 2 and Ariete not Russian tank lol
Lmao what
Yeah, you think Russian tank is bad then you never try both Challenger 2 and Ariete.
The T-90M and T-80BVM don’t fit into the ‘mediocre’ category, while the base Chally 2 and C1 Ariete are probably worse than mediocre
It’s not that bad, it’s not just meta.
T90M I dislike personally, but BVM is my drifting Unkillable Mobile Russian Bias Machine xD. Black Night is good imo all the other challies are mid at best.
That’s your opinion. I said that they were mediocre, not bad. Also I’ve played the ZTZ99A which is probably on the same level as those tanks in terms of being bad.
The Russian tanks are definitely not on the level of the best tanks in the game like the leopards
They already have theirs. They are called Spike and PARS but sadly Gaijin thought only the LMUR needed its correct lofting profile for maximum damage.
Ok so what do you call Turret baskets only for Abrams and Leos, Stabilizer restriction only for Leos despite every top tier tank clipping, most western tanks using rounds that are out of service for years or in the case of the 2A7 being out of service before the vehicle even entered service and the Leopards armor not even matching the specs from the swedish 90s test trial? Not even mentioning the ample problems with Challies and Leclercs. Thats all just random or what?
never said it was. I just said that its addition is questionable.
Fixed it for you
Being best or tied in more than half the categories is already quite nut. Besides there is a clear difference between “being the best” and “performling as it should”
Were it “realistic” as Gaijin likes to advertise, everyone would be at Br 14 while Russia still is stuck at 12, except maybe for a random t-14 and a top tier AA
They loft too low compared to IRL, go for the most armored part, and should i mention the way HEAT warheads are implemented in this game ?
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Russian and Chinese autoloader reloads are heavily nerfed. Their gun depression too. The T80BVM has 20km/h reverse irl but only 11 km in game. Also are the NATO tanks not good enough? They have the best firepower in the game paired with relatively good protection. They also have excellent mobility
All Leclerc Variants, All Abrams Variants are lackluster IG compared to real life, Leclerc lacks armour and a good round, same for challenger.
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Abrams are a very good tank. They have the second best shell in game, second best reload, and very good mobility. They also have better armor. If you think Abrams is bad go look at the ZTZ99A. It’s basically a worse Abrams with worse armor, firepower and on par mobility