The MI28NM problem

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2713

I don’t think an aam is defeated by the IRCM, and if DIRCM works, they got me fooled.

As far as I know the Best Russian heli against IRCCM and non IRCCM AAMs is the Mi-28A promptly located in the Swedish tech tree.

I did a lot of testing with a buddy after we watched one avoid Fim-92K after Fim-92K and he was flaring last moment on a lot of them, and by last moment I mean they were practically touching him.

Then we went through and tried every other heli (before LDIRCM was added to the Mi-28Nm) and found all of them, regardless of modifications equipped, and in pretty much every conceivable method, flying away, flying towards, high low, etc. the Fim-92k would always strike a hit with the first launch, and either completely cripple a helicopter or kill it out right.

The flight model is middle ground for the KA-50s. Better than the mi-24s worse than the Mi-28s meaning the gimbaled gun is usable but not easily. Easier on the ka 50 over the 52.

Yeah that’s for sure. But why are those helis I mentioned so tanky??? When they weren’t irl?

2714

The Mi-28NM is so f-ing opressive. Vikhrs and LMURs are the worst combo this game has seen surrounding helicopters. As any other helicopter, you are put in a massive disadvantage.

Just for fun, name me 1 helicopter you can think of that is is better and explain how. You will not be able to.

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2715

New Pantsir will also kill all of your helicopters as well DIRCM wont work against a mach 4 missile that is manually guided.

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2716

We are back to USS- I mean Russia dominating in the AD and CAS roles again, so this problem is now even more relevant.

2717

Mach 4,956268. Basically mach 5*

2718

Mamba intercepted 6 missiles and then killed the helicopter. I guess it’s all it takes to make life hard for the 28NM.
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2719

I won’t take a stance on this as I didn’t really read much but its not LDIRCM like 13.0 Helis, its just regular IRCM, meaning it’ll fool non-IRCCM IR missiles, but won’t against any form of IRCCM (IRIS-T, 9M, etc)

2720

KA-52’s DIRCM stops IRCCM missiles found on all planes at the moment. It just doesn’t work against AGMs and IR missiles like the AIM-9X and IRIST.

2721

Really? Did you test this? Last I did, it didn’t.

2722

After a few hundred battles of Squadron Battles against KA-52, I sure hope I’m correct 😅

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2723

My bad then.

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2724

How bad a helicopter pilot needs to be to die against a radar missile lmao.

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2725

I disagree, the DIRCM works well against heat-seeking missiles from lower-level BRs, but on the same BR you can expect to find Saclos missiles as well, so don’t rely on it working against everything. And there’s the SPAAS trick of firing one missile and guiding another at it; sometimes it works…

2726

On some maps/side combos you actually have to balloon high up to see the battlefield from your helipad.

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2727

The only way helis can die to ARH currently is if they move forward / backwards too much relative to the SPAA / aircraft (more accurately the missile themselves) that fired them.

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2728

Yeah, I didn’t really watch the replay to see where he was going, probably back to his helipad as the map didn’t really allow great views from the spawn.

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2729

Anything IRCM and most normal AAMs will literally bypass DIRCM

I have flown the Mi-24 enough to know that it’s useless.

Even tested it with a buddy, no matter the alt, direction, etc. the DIRCM on hinds is total crap. Same with the other Russian helis.

2730

Mi-24s don’t get DIRCM. They get regular IRCM, which is basically useless against every IR missile (even non-IRCCM) (like you said).
The only helicopter with DIRCM is the KA-52, which does work against non-IRCCM and IRCCM missiles from jets.

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2731

Yeah, somehow I doubt the KA-52’s DIRCM works. I’ve been hit with plenty of Fim-92s, Strelas, AIM-9s, and so on.

2732

Strelas sure – they have optical guidance.
The rest, no. The FIM-92s can kill you if it was indirectly shot, though.