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AI slop
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I don’t know about that
Why state that this is not AI slop when no one has accused you of it yet. If it ain’t AI, there’s no need to say it isn’t
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R-73s are abysmal headon, and R-27ERs end up losing out to ARHs above 13.3. If you really want to talk about pre merge advantages, compare the R-24s/Aim-7E-2s and other SARH missiles. Or bring up airframe quality as well.
Mig-29s are bad, and are even worse at BVR. Su-27s are high enough that they will be facing ARH missiles almost every game, and combined with a poor radar/rwr, they can’t really BVR.
Anyways this feels like AI. It says a lot without saying anything at all.
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Yes Definetly Ai Slop. Its making very wierd comparisons
Yeah, I wonder why Aim-9M and Magic II have more flare resitance than the R-60. They have IRCCM the R-60 doesnt. R-73 performs very similarly to the Magic II and the Aim-9M only very very recently got front-aspect IRCCM. For the better part of the past 3 years. It was 1 flare defeat in front aspect.
You (or your AI) should be comparing the R-60 to the Aim-9L which is just as easy to flare and pre-flare as the R-60. Especially when you factor in CM performance of saying the Mig-23MLD vs the F-4s.
Yes, because it has IRCCM and is comprable to the R-73
Python-3 isnt that good, no harder to flare than a 9L. Compared to the aircraft it faces, its kinda DOA.
What you (or your AI) has failed to take into account is factor like this.
The Mig-21 or Su-22s operate with 6x All-aspect missiles at 11.0. comprable aircraft like say, the Tornado IDS, operate at 11.3 (and until the next BR change) 11.7 with only 2x 9Ls.
The Mig-23MLD has little excuse to be 11.7, when its direct equals are at 12.0. R-24R are the best SARH missiles below 12.0.
The R-27ER was stupidly OP and oppresively strong during the latter part of the Fox-1 era. Fighting those missiles was stupid and tbh, remains rather stupid now. There are many aircraft that simply should never see them, but are forced to because of compression
The Su-30 premiums are clearly under BRed, even a blindfolded blind man in a pitch black cave can see that.
The Su-27s and Su-30s have a number of very questionable additions, such as double rack missiles or the Su-30SM2s choice of both engine and radar.
The meta at top tier heavily favours the Su-30SM2 because it handles just fine, has one of the best radars, the second best ARH missiles (the “meta” heavily favours shorter range performance over long ranged performance) and carries a metric ton of them. (it also gets a very fast spawn speed). When you compare the extremely favourable treatment of the Su-30SM2 to something like the Typhoon that is still awaiting its Cockpit UV filter among other things, you can rapidly see why people get very very annoyed about the current performance of soviet vehicles
P.S. Side mention, Soyuz and BMPT. I dont think I really need to say much more than that.
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If you don’t even have the patience to type smth when starting a discussion, then you don’t deserve a discussion. AI Slop.
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I can smell “author of text didnt play the game” even from andromeda galaxy. This and formatting easily tells us its post made by AI. Its so obvious that if it was course or bachelor work, inspector would just spit on it and reject it without using any tools.
And if post header has “please fix”, where is your proposition for fixing the issue? Usually if you want something changed you offer way to implement that change. Instead all I see is players think that, players debate on that and some weird advice. Which is bad advice btw. ChatGPT would know that if it played the game at least. Instead of sucking random opinions from reddit or this very forum.
Its sad that you are creative enough only for LLM prompt and this sentence.
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Flare Susceptibility: R-60s have large seeker fields of view, making them easily decoyed by pre-flaring, unlike the more flare-resistant AIM-9M or Magic II.
- Other “Head-On” Missiles: The French Magic II is an exceptionally strong IR all-aspect missile, and the Israeli AIM-9L-equipped F-4s can also hold their own in a joust.
Players and data miners often debate whether this is intentional “Russian bias” or simply a design decision by Gaijin Entertainment to model missiles based on their intended close-in, high-agility combat doctrine.
If you are facing this meta, the advice is generally to avoid direct head-ons against Russian jets unless necessary, or to force them into a sustained engagement where their missiles are less effective.
If you chalk up this post as “AI slop” you’re coping, point blank per.
brother this shit cant be real.
im gonna quote our lord and savior
“i dont rage bait, i bait the rage 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🥱🥱😈😈🐺🐺🐺🦍🦍”
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yeah definitely, it’s why shotgunning r-60ms are actually quite good at mig-21bis br range (shooting r60m at around .8km) Though I’d argue it’s more due to the fuse delay being super low and not its actual maneuverability.
yeah true, but really only rear aspect. Side aspect and front aspect they’re usually one flared unless very, very close.
yeah, also true. Not only that, it’s much more maneuverable than the sparrow. Plus unlock relock capability makes it super strong, imo all su-27/flankers should go up one br step, while the mig-29s are usually mid enough even with r-27er that they can stay at their current br.
eh if you shotgun them close enough it doesn’t even matter if it sees flares, it will still proxy on em. And yeah ofc its less flare resistant than 9m or magic 2 with no irccm.
su-27 has better energy retention than those planes
it’s moreso that russia had these kind of missiles early on, and don’t necessarily get a good era accurate counterpart (not including prototypes like aim95). like the nato counterpart to r-73 is the aim9x which is obviously too good compared to r-73 unless it comes with a omega-nerfed seekerhead on par with r-73
that really only works in omega busted planes like eurofighter or rafale
it’s fine to use ai, just don’t deny it
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R60m is completely useless. You will never ever get a kill against anyone who is not afk.
He master the bait
Pretty sure use of AI is against the rules
If it was used openly and for a specific reason, and had been fact checked and corrected where needed. I doubt the forum mods enforce it.
But just straight C&P of the AI output, then yeah, I think it is
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There is no such Rule for the forums! I would like to add that if anyone does use AI for whatever reason they need to make sure what is posted is not breaking other rules though such as no false information for example.
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Thank you for the clarification
Fine. But what about this kind of topic? It’s not clear what the op wants, what he’s asking for. He talked about fixing the game without offering any solution, nor highlighting a real issue. It just perfectly fits the “ai slop” definition and nothing more. I’m a bit confused, but maybe it’s just me and I’m wrong, I really don’t know.
Tbh it just defeats point of forum and discussions in general. People gather in one place to express their thoughts and talk about certain topics. AI just removes human part.
-what is your opinion on t series reload buff?
-my opinion? In modern era of war thunder everything evolves quickly. Russian tanks are not exception to this… [insert 20 paragraphs of unnecessary ai yapping]
What is point of posting this if person doesnt express their own thoughts? It feels dishonest and shows disrespect to whoever is reading this. OP wants changes but couldnt invest some time, passion and respect to readers while writting post.
And lastly, if I ever want to read ChatGPT or Claude or Gemini thoughts on game (which they never played and wont play it anytime soon), I will go to specific web pages.
P.S.: Want to clarify that Im not against usage of AI to translate or correct mistakes in text because text will still have person own thoughts on subject. Its “improve presentation of my thoughts” not “make me my opinion from zero”.
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Please create threads properly.
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