The maus

I would advise to grind the maus a month after the event. Usually the matchmaker is really bad during the maus event because many people still try to grind to unlock rank 5

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In response to the OP I would say the Maus is the symbol of the point where the game unravels as something that is sensible, believable and fun.
At that point the game descends into lunacy and a stupidity that asks too much of its player base.You can only suspend disbelief so much.

WT after 7 is not for me at all. I certainly speak for myself but I doubt I am alone on this.
It gets silly at around 6.7 but when you are in a slow old WW2 tank facing fast opponents with modern ammo with no mods its a chore and a bore.

The game later on is mostly about firing from a hidden position anyway so talking about thin armour on fast cold war AFVs is mute. Fat chance of even reaching cover in your old plodding WW2 tank with no mods. And how many games do they want you to play before you can even get a fire extinguisher or parts? Nah f*** that. Cant be arsed. I’ll stick to 1-6 BR and you can stick your Maus where the sun does not shine and all the rest of the mid tier stupidity with it.

The post isn’t really about the Maus as much as its about trying to make sense of a truly ridiculous game.

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I think BR 1.0 should do the trick. 😂

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They should delete the stupid thing and claw some sense of respect back for the game but they never will. Best to paint the Maus pink ,cover them in anime pillows and join in the stupidity if that is your thing .That is how War Thunder is going and it why I stopped advancing and cancelled premium.I know others have as well. Each to their own I guess.
Just treat the game as a bit of a joke and dont give it any thought.Not surprising so many are simply trolling or leaving after one death.

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Good old days will never be back, game had a lot of dumb things back then as well, Maus wasn’t as tanky as it is right now. What I’m doing right now is taking Maus with Weisel and some CAS jets. If I see someone spawning a leopard - I’m not spawning my Maus. It’s that simple.
Good old days are over and forgotten, but no one stops you from bringing them back yourself. But tbh, this game was never as serious as you think it was, nerdy war machinery’s community will always consist of some kind of freaks (one way or another) and this is precisely the reason why it’s one of the best ones. Anime girl on a Maus is somewhat accurate. This is the game about weapons, do not disregard those who wield them. They are us - boys and girls with precious lives and memories. If we’re risking them, might as well have some fun along the way. Yes, by putting an anime girl pillow on my death machine. Yes, by writing “OwO” on my heavy bomber bringing death to the whole cities. Soldiers are people and people always find ways to have fun even in the darkest pits of hell.

germany get stomped hard @7.7 mostly downtiers

Well i agree generally here but 7.0 seems a bit harsh for the enemies, just imagine hellcats trying to kill you. It would be hella fun but 7.3 ARB/GRB seems to be the better option

maus will face atgm unless it gets put to 5.3

I’ve been proposing the same thing for years. All the good old heavies should be reworked, some rounds should be taken away from them, like heat-fs for M103 and then they should be introduced as solid 7.7. Which means adding an uptier cap of 7.7, which is the last br where they can somewhat breathe while not being blantantly OP. Just let them play 7.7 and never higher, that would solve everything and wouldn’t introduce any new problems to the topic. Everyone is happy, no one is forced to suffer, steady flow of heavy tanks enjoyers for mid-br’s is guaranteed. It’s so obvious, but I still don’t understand why they wouldn’t just do it.

“sad t32e1 noises”

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And that’s why the Maus was removed, because it can’t be well placed in any BR.

Too high and it’s a turtle, only dangerous from directly infront and close.

Too low and it’s a beast that no one should face.

Now do you think it’s normal that a vehicle can’t be placed at a BR ? Not it’s not, which is why the whole BR system needs to be overhauled.

The problem is it’s an ever existing problem that will never be solved to everyone’s satisfaction.

Maus fanatics will forever gripe that they’re too high because tanks can penetrate their archaic armor scheme. Opponents will decry moving them down or limiting the opponents they face with the tools like HEAT FS and APFDS to where they seal club.

There is no perfect answer. Its more finding the best solution for the most players, or atleast the least worst.

We don’t have to care about sealclubbers, what we need to do is fix the BR system so that every vehicle has a fair chance at fighting and winning battles, this is not only a problem for the Maus, but also for many other vehicles. I have talked about the J-35 before which faces the same issue

In the end, we cannot leave a broken BR system just because a tiny minority of players won’t be satisfied.
A very much large majority of players want to see the BR system get overhauled, simply because some vehicles cannot even get added because of the latter.

Perfect will forever be the enemy of good enough and even if the Br system is overhauled it is entirely likely some vehicles will never be good fits.

The Maus will forever be one of those.

I would very much like to see the BR system expanded to 15.5 or so giving definition to the different systems that make significant capability shifts.

But even if we did that, because of what it is, the Maus is always going to be higher than users of it want because of what it is by definition

We don’t know this, now is time to fix the BR system to see if it will be or not, it seems to me that this issue is very much avoidable by even the smallest of changes, like making the maximum uptier +0.7, this small change would allow the Maus and a lot of other vehicles to be competitive while still not being overpowered.

I do agree with you there, there are some vehicles which will never be able to be balanced, but gaijin sure could do a hell of a better job to reduce the number of vehicles that are this way, in my opinion the Maus doesn’t enter in that category.

Yes, we do.

It will forever be stuck in an impossible position br position because it is an ardently bad vehicle that gives up everything for a big gun and thick poorly designed armor.

Flawed vehicles will always struggle unless we give them unbalanced positions like in WOT.

Honestly, if gaijin:

  • Implemented shell shattering for the APHEDS
  • Increased the reload time of the 128mm and especially the 75mm
  • Reduced the track durability

I could very well see the Maus work perfectly at 7.3. If you track it and outrun the already really slow turret you can penetrate its side with most 5.7+ vehicles since it’s just a flat 180mm plate while it also wouldn’t get absolutely destroyed by 8.7s with LRFs and stabilized dart slingers.

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No we don’t.

It is flawed because of the BR, now since things can change and don’t have to stay stuck in the same way forever, by changing the BR system we could make the Maus face way fewer cold war vehicles with ammunition that will just not care about its armor, while still ensuring that a few of those vehicles stick around to stop a Maus that’s on a killing spree. You keep saying it’s bad, while failing to understand that it is so because of the vehicles it is facing.

I don’t think the 128mm reload’s need to be higher honestly, it’s already long enough as it stands, but all the other 3 changes you propose could actually work. Gaijin could also reduce the barrel’s durability
There’s only one way to know and it’s testing if it works, which I’m sure it will.