The Marut highlighting the problems with the F-84F

It’s well known within the community how awful the non-American F-84Fs are in the game.
Basically useless aircraft that cannot at all compete without the air spawn that the American one has which leaves all non-American ones as nothing but a hill for you waste RP on till you can get the thing after it.

The addition of the Marut only highlights these problems even more as the Marut does get it’s air spawn despite it having better overall performance than the F-84F.
I am NOT saying the Marut needs to lose its air spawn to balance it. I AM saying the F-84F needs to gain an air spawn to all non-American ones to make them viable.
Why does a vehicle with much better performances get to have and air spawn while one that is much worse does not.
I even recorded videos of a SPADED F-84F taking off compared to a STOCK Marut and the spaded Thunderstreak had much worse takeoff performance from a runway. They both took off with minimal fuel, no weapons, and no flaps, testing to time to reach 200mph. The stock Marut was able to take off much sooner and faster than the F-84F. I know the first thing people will point out will be “Well that’s why the Marut is a higher BR” which yes, that makes sense. What doesn’t make sense is why a vehicle with worse spaded performance, in the same vehicle class, and a lower BR, doesn’t get an air spawn for the majority of the trees it is in.
The only reason the American one is viable is because of its air spawn allowing it to get to a base or AI ground before something at the same or even a lower BR comes by and just annihilates it instantly.
A problem I ran into while playing a non-US one was flying over my own teams bases and a US F-84F with an air spawn is able to bomb the base and shred me with so much more energy because it got an air spawn and I didn’t.
Giving all non-US F-84Fs an air spawn would be a change that would make using them so much less painful and unfair. This is something that the community has been wanting for ages as it makes no sense to keep most of them without and air spawn and forces unnecessary suffering for simply playing a certain tree. Ignoring all other problems with it and requesting it to be lower in BR, simply keeping at the same BR and giving every single one an air spawn would be an amazing thing for the aircraft.

Again, I am NOT saying the Marut needs to be changed in any way.
I am just saying the addition of the Marut shows a massive discrepancy in logic and consistency with how aircraft are treated.
The Marut should absolutely have its air spawn and it makes sense that it does, just as giving all F-84Fs an air spawn would also make sense and needs to be done.

Here are the videos I took of the F-84F and Marut doing a spaded vs stock takeoff comparison respectively.

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IRC airspawn happens due to rank (Tier) - don’t have the game in front of me but T5 gets it, T6 doesn’t?

Nothing more complicated than that.

I know that. That doesn’t change anything of what I stated. That just raises the question of why does the Marut and the US F-84F get to be at Rank V while all other F-84Fs have to rank Rank VI and suffer. That just shows an even greater lack of consistency and knowledge of how the aircraft performs and needs to be ranked. I could even argue that air spawn should have nothing to do with rank and should be purely based on an individual aircraft, it’s classification, and how it performs.
Don’t excuse bad vehicle placements with even worse game design logic.

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(Random rank 6 Vautours, which has exact same 9.0BR with Marut just passing by)

Joke reply - American Bias. :P
Real reply - Gaijin is dull and dumb enough to ruin the game.

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I was thinking of the Vautours and even thought of including in them in the argument while I was writing it but wanted to keep things more focused on the F-84F for now.

My best guess is so in a downtier a Vautour cant just race a B-52 or Il-28 a base and steal it which I can certainly understand but then just up the br of the Vautours by .3 (Or even better lower all the other jet bomber brs by .3) so that they cant face each other and then give the Vautours air spawn.

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I never enjoyed the f84f.

They should do some change to help it out.

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I’m not “excusing” anything ffs - you asked a question and I provided the only answer that there!

Why do you ask questions you already know the answer to?

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They were rhetorical questions to bring attention to Gaijin’s issues with logic and consistency. I thought that was pretty clear to see when I wrote the post.

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The OP asked what causes rain and you replied telling him that rain is wet.

The point stands, there’s absolutely no reason for the F-84s to be rank 6 in every other nation while the US remains at rank 5.

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