I was just wondering when we will see it back. I guess we have the answer. 8,2k GE is a bit rough though for a meme vehicle without any decent combat value.
Until the HESH gets fixed i don’t think it’s worth buying
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Improve HESH or wallet closed !!!
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Hell yeah, finally it’s returning. I have a question if the AVRE will recieve similar threatment, some kind of event in favor or a discound around August of the first prototype of the Centurion AVRE recieved by the army.
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I don’t know if the Centurion AVRE will receive the same treatment, but for now, aside from the HESH damage issue, the Centurion AVRE has an armor issue. I hope Gaijin will fix something someday.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/JBZZelVuxQkj
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I have wanted both the US and UK HESH flingers for years now, however I will not be spending anything on them until HESH is at least usable again. And I agree with what others said already, full price for a “unusable” vehicle is too much to ask. MAYBE if it was 50% off I would have gotten it and waited for a HESH fix, but I am not going to purchase it at full price (and not even in a store pack like it used to be), only to do no damage to enemies in matches.
Please Devs fix our HESH rounds, tyvm 🍻
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Yeah, i really want to complete my US 7.0 lineup, but 8,2k GE for a hardly usable meme vehicle is a bit too much to ask. With -30/-50% discount i would definitely take it, but i guess will wait a bit longer since that isn’t the case
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BESH
not worth my ge
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didnt even trigger overpressure for the driver
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Yeah, imo if they “can’t” fix HESH, at least giving it the same effect as HE shells currently do would be a huge improvement. But, as it stands, it’s pretty rare to do any worthwhile damage with HESH shells 😢
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Hey @Stona_WT I think a typo might have been made here
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Hesh it’s just a shit shell
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Hit the tracks, guaranteed kill.
Nah, HESH was awesome a while back in game when it was fixed/improved, but then it was unfixed. HESH is/was great IRL. It only has problems IRL and in game when you start trying to use it against modern tanks with modern composite armor. But against the tanks that the M728 CEV and Centurion Mk.5 AVRE face, HESH was, and should be again, very effective in game.
HESH wiki page if anyone would like more info about how and why they work: High-explosive squash head - Wikipedia
The specific info about why HESH is not used as much against more modern tanks with composite armor and/or spall liners (but again, why HESH IS [should be] effective against the tanks in game that lack composites/liners.) :
Since the 1980s, HESH ammunition has increasingly lost favour as armour designs have trended towards layered composites of hard metal and heat-resistant materials. This type of armour conducts shock waves poorly. Anti-spalling devices (spall liners), made of materials such as Kevlar, are commonly fitted to the interior surface of modern armoured vehicles to minimise spalling effects.
TL;DR: HESH worked well in War Thunder in the past. Make HESH great again!
Please and thank you devs, cheers! 🍻
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Okay, but that’s no excuse for not fixing the damage model. Besides, it only works with the 165 and 183mm. The 90, 105, and 120mm can’t kill by hitting the wheels, not even light armor.
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With current state of HESH I would not buy it for 82GE or even 8.2GE.
Even the biggest HESH are useless for both M728 and Centurion AVRE
(not to mention FV4005 that distribute equivalent of small bomb…).
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I made the mistake of buying the Cent AVRE. Do not. The 165mm is utter garbage.
It will be good once we can get HESH fixed properly, OR at least have it do over pressure “as if” it were HE. I will continue to advocate for HESH, not only for these HESH flingers, but also for the other tanks that can use HESH too 🙂 I LOVE big and slow shells, so fun lobbing over hills. And ~300m/s is SO good for hill lobbing.
Thank you, brother, for giving visibility to my post. I appreciate the consideration.
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