My dude no person with an opinion worth having thinks the Ariete and Leclerc shouldn’t be buffed, but that being said the Abrams absolutely is the worst tank of the big three and is worse than even some minor nations’ tanks.
No one was asking for the 5 second reload, even though it is realistic. The impenetrable cheeks aren’t impenetrable to all rounds, the UFP should shatter APFSDS not bounce, mobility and gun handling are unremarkable in comparison to the best Leopards, Strvs, T-80BVM, and T90’s. I could list even more problems with the Abrams, but that’s not the point of this thread.
No you should select your round and check where you actually do pen and do not pen.
Even then that does not necessarily represents what happens in a match.
Leclerc certainly survives more than Type10 and what am I to tell you regarding the survivabillity I experienced? Leclerc is quite decent at destroying enemies after it has been more or less severely damaged.
…Which gives us a good idea of how easy it is to get killed while playing it. We don’ t need to have multiple top tier tanks to realize that:
A lot of death are from a single hit pretty much anywhere on the hull since the entire thing is a weak spot and the bottom fuel tank is very likely to detonate from the spalling of the hull
That making similar shots on tanks on the enemy team doesn’t produce the same results
Sorry, but the Leclerc’s survivability is genuinely awful.
The Leopard 2s and Abrams have very few actual issues in-game regarding their implementation, far less relative to how much whining’s involved (especially from amerimutt players).
The LeClerc, Ariete, VT-4A1, ZTZ-99A, ZTL-11, ZTZ-96A and WZ1001 are all missing their spall liners they actually had (unlike the Abrams which didn’t, and the Leopard 2 that did and got them).
The LeClerc is missing ungodly amounts of frontal armor (unlike the Abrams which is not, and the Leopard 2A7/Strv122 which currently only have pixel weakspots).
The Ariete’s WAR kit weighing 5 entire tons localized entirely on its turret cheeks is currently only 20mm RHA and is missing hundreds of mm.
Compared to other tanks I played it is surprisingly decent.
The only issue is that with 3 crew members survivability is affected while the reload speed has been nerfed.
You are chosing easy arguments. It is just as easy to be destroyed by a single shot in other tanks.
I’m sure some poeple would argue that the armour coverage regarfdign certain weak or vulnerable spots is just as ungodly as the wrong weaker base armour kit that Leopard 2 variants in game are using.
Which one is missing more I do not know. It is not a contest anyway.
With the current reload on Abrams a 5 second reload for Leclerc would be reasonable though.
