My point is that you cannot just assume what numbers mean. You are saying that the Leclerc numbers are for the bare chassis and I’ll take your word for it as I can’t see at least one of your sources. But it’s impossible to know what Omsktransmash are measuring based on a single number on their website. You really need labelled diagrams, like this (from an Alvis Brochure) in order to draw proper conclusions:
But let’s say the Leclerc really is 1 m too long in game, that leaves two possibilities:
The whole tank model is scaled up by x%, in which case you should be able to tell pretty easily (e.g. the barrel is much wider than other 120 mm tanks in game, the roof MG is bigger than the same roof MG on other tanks, the tank is taller than it should be, etc.)
Gaijin somehow got only the length wrong, in which case the tank would look laughably out of proportion (and I would have to question how no body has noticed in the last 4 years)
he proved the leclerc is more or less correct in length and definitely not a whole ass meter longer than it should be, like the bug report title suggests. Also the T-80U’s brackets are literally welded into place so it makes total sense why they would be included in the measurements, they can’t be easily dismounted for transport
If you sincerely he proved anything you might want to go back to elementary school because it sure as hell looks like you can’t read lmao. I’ll just post this here, and stop arguing.
@_David_Bowie hi, sorry for the ping, feel free to reply when you’d like.
It is know which Tranche of Leclerc S2 devs used for the game?
Leclerc S2.4 ( Tranche 9 ) replaced ATHLOS for IRIS in the gunner sight. I’ve been making bug reports about the thermal generation for some Leclercs, and since i do not know which specific tranche the Leclerc S2 we have in the game, im not sure if i should make a bug report about it or not.
I don’t know how this thread evolved into the length of Lecerc’s hull, nor why, but I will point that the length of tanks is that of the hull in transport order, that is, with transport removable/detachable elements removed for transportation. Transportation is the only time in the life of a tank where the length of the hull matters. Thus, a tank hull might be longer in battle order than when being transported.
(Then there’s the gun but that would be another matter)
If Gaijin wont up the Leclerc, I think the most logic thing to do … should to move Leclerc S1, S2 and Azur to 10,3 (M1 KVT have better armor …) with OFL G1 and move SXXI to 11.0/11.3 like Challenger 2 with the OFL F1 and Leclerc could finally be balanced in its actual state.
Who said it’s a bad tank ? I only think that we’ll never see the leclerc it should be : well armored, nimble, fast, with good fire power, because “classified” (lmao).
