The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

The problem is thag those records were made before the Leclerc even entered service.

İ feel your frustration.

On the old Forum i stated multiple times that community is the one who actually gets the job done.

Because as you said we’re provıding more information then actual developers in this case.

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Smin himself has proved that Gaijin development doesn’t care if a service version is different from early production. We already got another hint of that from David Bowie as well.

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if at least the mobility report goes through we can play it more like a light tank which would be the next best scenario since armor is getting denied

Yes, exactly. And I would also like to point out the fact that THEY are asking us for tangible evidence (classified documents or nothing), which is all well and good for a game that aims to be realistic, but I would really like to see their own sources for each patch

I don’t feel like we should drop everything about the armor, their point is just dumb.

i mean smin is just a messenger but this stuff is so hard to communicate that it doesn’t really matter to try at times

no but they wont even change the azur to composite and that tells me plenty about what they think about armor reports

Gaijin when it comes to modelling or fixing Russian tanks armor:Russian sources are more then enough.

Gaijin when it comes to nerfing Nato Vehicles:A document from 30 years ago and Russian sources are enough.

Gaijin when it comes to buffing Nato vehicles:Russian sources or old documents are not enough, Gib classified documents or keep dreaming.

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The problem is that we’re getting the same nonsense on all fronts. It feels like Gaijin is an umbrella that is unable to manage game development in someway or another.

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The weight difference between the prototypes Leclercs (53-54t) from the production serie (56-57t) is simply too small to sustain this argument. Look at the Strv 122A (62.5t) with 3t of extra weight over the Leopard 2A5 and 7.3t over late 2A4s (55t).

And we know that most of that weight increased went to the turret in the form of titanium inserts. The point is, even under the best assumption the tank is going to have lower KE protection (<700mm) than it’s peers.

Wooooo yeah baby

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As far as I know, Titanium inserts are only on the SXXI and they do no increase (significantly) the weight of the Leclerc because this additional weight was reduced on the side armor of the turret.

Let’s celebrate that they finally did the bare minimum. But with how they’re position is becoming dead set to refuse anything else the Leclerc will still be in a bad state.

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İ feel like this situation is kinda similiar to Strv122’s main ammo situation.

They refused to add M/95 until one point they realized they cant deny what was coming.

Maybe Leclerc family will recieve armor buff in next 2 years but lets not keep our hopes high.

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650-700mm would still be an incredible improvement over what we currently have.

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It’s already been unplayable since 2 years ago

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Woah. A fix after 3 years ! See you in 3 years for the next one lol.
Considering there are over 10 active bug reports regarding the Leclercs, it means we’ll have it fixed in about 30 years …
Worse thing is that most of them are a 1 minute modification away.

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I hope new APFSDS add to LECLERC in 2.33.0.20

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Am I looking at these graphs wrong? Wouldn’t the Swedish trials confirm our estimates of 650 - 700mm KE and 1100 - 1200mm CE?
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There’s an area of 700mm and 1200mm CE under the gunner sight…

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