The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

Maybe they’ll implement some chages after the backlash they received yesterday.

what negative reaction I am not aware of

considering they haven’t shown a rank 8 MBT, so maybe there is hope

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Go to stona’s profile and see one of his latest posts, the one from yesterday, it’s about the lack of communication from Gaijin and failure at accepting bug reports as such.

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I’ve been looking into the issue for Leclerc spall lining and found this. I figured I’d drop it here even though I’m still early into research and don’t know much else.

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One more thing as well. Crew survivability at least has a recent study with spall lining being a defining characteristic. The Leclerc being classed as a vehicle that is meant to be able to recover from penetrating hits with as little injury to the crew as possible.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.ifri.org/sites/default/files/atoms/files/fs72_hemez.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjo9fTNyYKDAxV5RzABHYDRCdw4ChAWegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw3EvZav3K2Tz8FuOEthQMKH

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Let us pray that the other reports that passed a few weeks ago lead to improving the Leclerc’s and we shall have a somewhat competitve MBT…

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Probably the last thing I’ll look for on the topic.
The Leclerc under the United Arab Émérites in Yémen found that the Leclerc was satisfactory in the engagements it was in.
Protection was sufficient but certain hits les them to give feedback for:
•Armor technology to have Nano-crystalized materials similar to the Type-10.
•Soft-kill protection systems
•Laser Warning systems that is used by the ZTZ-99 as it’s a French system
•Hard Kill protection systems

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.republique-souveraine.fr/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Doc-5-Ultima-ratio-d%25C3%25A9cembre-2016.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjkjKrKhIWDAxU2QjABHZPhCzEQFnoECA4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw29V1iE1ajKgrCdL--eVIrn
I went through way to much porn to find this

If protection was considered satisfactory besides those it would be a point that crew survivability is part of the tank. Spall lining in real life doesn’t prevent all splinters, it just catches the majority and reduces the energy of those that penetrate.

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We have a source for spall lining using Teflon, fiber glass and carbon fibers. We asked around and we were told it’s sufficient. Bossman should make a report soonTM (before end of dev server)

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That’s good to hear. I’ve been trying to do my part for searching for references, I’m not as well versed in reporting so I’ll leave it for you.
I figured the more data available, the better the final result will be. So I looked for a possible spall liner that’s used, reference on the Leclercs protection, and a report on the Leclerc from combat.

Did you guys manage to find something like a primary source or a secondary that directly references the splinter protection on the Leclerc?

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We have 1 Russian source (always the Russian sources to save the day lol) that is considered as reliable that mentions the spall liner itself, plus, as you said, the fact that the Leclerc is a recent tank, focused on crew survivability

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At which br. the Leclerc is gonna be this update (compared to the new rank VIII tanks)?

It’s going to rank VIII, so I guess at the same BR as everything else. Would not matter either way, as top tier vacuums everything that is not 1 br under it (12.3 being the current “actual” top tier as many people have 12.3 aircrafts)

So basically, they added tanks to the nations which already had the best ones and now Leclerc is gonna be impossible to play…

Seems like it.

Are you able to highlight the part on the document that classes the Leclerc as a vehicle that can recover from multiple hits please?

Leclerc (All Variants) Missing Spall Liner

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/R0WAU20QgIes

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Pages 25-27.



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While it’s not clearly stated which vehicles have spall liners, from the last picture showing both a Leclerc and a VBCI, next to the text mentioning “revêtement anti-eclats” (spall liners), we can expect both of them to be fitted with such a thing. @Bossman919 you could add it in your report I think

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