The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

3rd one.

Type-10 is the first, Challenger 2 series are the second.

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It also matches Leo and Abrams Ariette when they have ace`d crew .

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Yup.

M1A2 is “the size” of T-72 is the size of T-80BVM as seen by a photo you decided to upload:

https://img-forum-wt-com.cdn.gaijin.net/original/3X/a/5/a57f85e1b43ae177ab801deda69505f7dba9d3bc.jpeg

This is well known… and the entire turret of T-80B is the weakspot, it’s lolpenned by any top round.
The only thing BVM has on its turret is 30% ERA coverage when its looking at a tank, which leaves most of its turret exposed for easy penning.

You shouldn’t insult people just cause they have knowledge you’re unaware of.
Especially when you copy exactly what I said about Leclerc’s armor… which means you called yourself the same name.
Leclerc has issues and you should be focusing on that instead of defending Russian equipment.
And I should stop defending American equipment from your slander in this thread.

@Panther2995
Thank you, I forgot about Challenger’s reload for a bit. So use to the 2nd stage reload.

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First ready rack is so small that it makes you ignore that you have 5.3 second reload for couple of seconds.

Same thing happens to me when im using my Chally DS.

Stop going off-topic, this is a Leclerc Issues post, if you want to discuss about other stuff do that in another place.

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Think you pinged the wrong guy.

Anyway, there’s still the T-54 case. And even for the TO-90 turrets, they’ve been implemented for years, they didn’t really care about fixing the reload imo, they just wanted them to go up and gave it a better reload for it.

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Are there any issues with the Leclercs with regards to mobility in-game?

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Its still pretty mobile tank , but its not as mobile as it should be .

Only russian equipment is better than in real life , NATO is worse , just because :)

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Such as? I tested the Leclerc SXXI with an ace crew and max crew level and achieved acceleration from 0 - 32km/h on a flat road in about 3.3 seconds. The claimed acceleration from 0 - 32km/h is 5.5 seconds.

The only thing that could be incorrect is that the Leclerc is allegedly able to reach full power delivery within 2.8 seconds. I’m not sure if there’s a way to test this in-game, however.

“The French LeClerc MBT gets “extraordinary” acceleration performance by coupling its eight-cylinder
conventional diesel engine to a turbine. This Hyberbar engine goes from zero to full power at 1,500 hp in 2.8 sec,
while conventional diesels require 8–12 seconds (Klotz, 2000).”

Source: https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=6889e68b98b9af695e52a91590ac6141aba6a693

The citation ‘(Klotz, 2000)’ refers to Issue 9 of the Military Technology Magazine in 2000 w̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ a̶ F̶r̶e̶n̶c̶h̶ M̶a̶j̶o̶r̶ i̶s̶ i̶n̶t̶e̶r̶v̶i̶e̶w̶e̶d̶ b̶y̶ ‘K̶l̶o̶t̶z̶’ where Lt. Col. Martin Klotz (Head of MBT and AFV Programmes in the French Army Staff) is interviewed by the magazine. However, I only have excerpts of the magazine (and not the ones I want).

That’s not true. Information on Russian tanks is much more widely available. It’s irrelevant to the post anyway.

Now that I think about it, the neutral traverse has to be incorrect. Part of the Leclerc’s design was that it was meant to turn and pivot way better than its Western counterparts.

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Dude, this is a Leclerc thread. Stop defending Russian equipment so much.
They’re not that good in-game, at all.

See my edit…

This is from the magazine I mentioned.

Obviously only Gaijin knows how their physics engine work (accleration, horsepower, etc)… Perhaps it is possible to request the specifics of how the Leclerc engine functions in-game?

The Hyperbar engine supposedly gives the Leclerc access to the fullpower of the engine at lower RPM. However, such a feature is not modelled in War Thunder and you can bet your ass that Gaijin won’t develop simply for us. However, there might be another solution.

See, in-game all engines reach their full power at a fixed RPM.
In-game, for the Leclerc, you get the full 1500 HPs at 2500 RPM.
Some sources lead us to believe we could actually get the full 1500 HPs around 1600 RPM.

So maybe we could simply request to get the full power at 1600 RPM instead of 2500 RPM.

The thing is, we need an engine expert to shine some light on how the Leclerc engine works so we can make a bug report about it first.
Secondly, I’m not a developper so I’m even sure that’s possible from a coding point of view.
Lastly, chances are we won’t get this additional mobility for “balancing reasons” anwyay …

So yeah it’s a long shot

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Even so, I’d put my hand up that even if we organised a meeting between the designer of the Hyperbar engine and the devs, the devs would be able to refuse because “we can’t trust him because he wouldn’t be objective”. 😕

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You want accurate things?

So tank using manual reloader should have the reload time going longer and longer each shot or during the time in mission.

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Just putting this here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilNiMCT7IA
I found it quite funny ngl

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Already accounted for with the average time being 2 seconds longer than the 7 round sprint.

Yep basically. Weird thing on the Leclerc is that it’s not consistent at all. Only one side is problematic, and the armor valu changes on the type of the Leclerc

I was about to reply to you with the last part of your comment. Acceleration wise I think it’s fairly correct.
Now, mobility wise, it feels clumsy and sluggish to me. It feels like it has bad traction, turns slower than the Abrams and the Leopard, and it bleeds a lot of speed in turns.
At the end of the day, I don’t have the feeling that I flank or reach advanced positions any faster than a Leopard or an Abrams.
Now, how can this be reported, I have no idea.

On a different note I don’t think the dimensions are correct either. As far as I understood it, the Leclerc should be somewhat shorter in height and lenght than a Leopard yet I think in-game they’re the same.

Edit: I forgot to add about the braking and acceleration reponse times. They also feel slower and by no means close to the idea that expert sources say when they describe the Leclerc’s engine as “capable of giving instant power to the transmission when stepping on the gas pedal”

gaijin specifically uses reload as a means of balance, they do not take gun alignment or realistic considerations with reload.

Bumping the Leclerc reload aligns with every other means of balance and we all know that the french tanks are out of balance.