Also CCE camouflage :(((
they have to accept my suggestion still though
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This is nice, im suprised they accepted it as a bug report because if they want they can add another camo and make it CCE and would work but nice that they know.
We will see, perhaps they gonna modify the CARC, perhaps simply give us another new camo, or simply never change anything ^^
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This is confusing; at least on the video evidence I have seen, it takes 5 seconds to reload (from the moment the ammorack door opens to the moment the gun goes back into firing position).
Here’s two examples:
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The reload starts from the gun starting to go to loading position.
Which starts at 0:05, and ends at 0:11.
We don’t really have the first part modelled in War Thunder whatsoever; all guns beging reloading immediately after firing, otherwise, there would be a variable reload start and speed based on the position of the gun.
Reloading may take 1 second longer in real life if the gun is far from the loading position, or it may start instantly if it’s close, etc. But, in War Thunder, that organic and variable factor is not taken into account.
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It’s just an animation that’s not modeled, the reloads of autoloaded tanks is accurate to the gun laying.
If that were the case, it would change a lot of my conception of War Thunder reload rates!
It would explain a lot, it would make most if not all reload rates basically perfect just as they are as of now.
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Here is a good comparison video featuring different autoloaders, each with a timer for each tank. Note that a shell in the gun breach does not mean it’s ready to fire. War Thunder also does not provide a time for elevation change to load the breach, so a comparison with minimal gun movement is best.
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I think in terms of balance and potentially making the French tech tree more popular the reload should be knocked down to 5 seconds, there’s vehicles at lower BR’s which have a faster reload. I don’t think 5 seconds is game breaking or meta defining, its just making a vehicle more viable in comparison to its competition.
Yeah, that Leclerc at the beginning is sped up, a good example of why video evidence isn’t allowed by Gaijin for time-related matters.
Cause as we saw with the allegedly unedited Leclerc video it’s closer to 6 seconds.
In my video, the entire Leclerc clip lasts 6.01 seconds. The timing starts when the ammunition door opens and ends at the first frame where the breech moves down, which occurred at 4.08 seconds.
In the clip from @SPANISH_AVENGER, the full autoloader sequence is 17.9 seconds long. I used the exact same starting and stopping conditions as in my video. The video is indeed not sped up. Claiming that either video is sped up implies that all three reloading segments in the two videos have been altered. My timing results are within 0.0333 seconds, corresponding to 30FPS, so the slight variation in answers is likely due to the low frame rate and resolution.
Feel free to apply the same method to both videos, and you will get the same answer. Do not accuse something of being fake if you have not done the research or testing to prove it.
4.03s
4.07s
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The correctness of the reload times for tanks greatly depends on when you start the counting process. In the case of my video, the timing began when the ammunition door opened, and the same approach was applied to the Type 90, K2, and VT5.
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Yes I’m planning on making a bug report about it. The reload is actually in the realm of 4-5 seconds. I’m not too pressed about it since I’m pretty sure it won’t amount to anything but yes, we can technically request a 5 seconds reload.
However as Smin said many times before reload is a balancing tool for the Devs. So if you guys actually want the reload to go down, please stop pressuring the Devs to reduce the reload rate and instead pressure them to give us a squadron Leclerc like the UAE Leclerc.
That’s the best way to lower the Leclerc’s winrate and thus buff the reload rate.
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Reload starts long before the door opens.
The door only opens when the automatic loading system has the gun perfectly aligned, in order to have the door open for as short as possible.
@totolescargo
It’ll fail because the reload is not 4 - 5 seconds as proven in Spanish’s video & the document excerpt supplied here.
The best way to get a 5 second Leclerc is to get a prototype that fires OFL 120 G1 for ~10.3.
But the thing is that Gaijing does not take into account gun alignment when it comes to reloading. All reloads are the same, no matter the gun position. And, Gaijing tends to take best case scenarios for many autoloading systems, thus why we argue that a 4-5s reload on the Leclerc is in the realm of possibility if the devs decide to buff the Leclerc in this way. But as you said, it will depend on having a Leclerc with worse stats for the devs to consider it
They do take it into account, which is why all reloads are the same & longer than real-life reloads.
And no, all reloads are slower than real life, including T-series tanks.
There are zero autoloaders that have a reload faster than real life.
Honestly, don’t you want the Leclerc to have a better reload? Say it directly instead of defending Gaijin.
I only want things to be accurate.
Seeking anything else is hypocrisy.