The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

I’m glad they are starting to focus on the more minor features because a few European mbts were using the same optics, as well as the black in the sight is gone for Leclerc.

To answer your question, I think I’ve discovered (I don’t know if this bug has already been reported) a shielding bug (yes, again…).

As you can see from this image, the block is rectangular and in a single block there’s nothing to suggest any fault or reduction in shielding at any point. And yet…

As you can see in this second image, a shell can penetrate 302mm! If anything, this weakness applies to the entire inner surface of the red square. And yet…

As this last image shows, at the same angle of attack, 600mm of armour can penetrate the entire inner surface of the strange red shape.

I can only see a bug in this situation. So, sure, it’s a small area, but,

  1. It’s a bug, so it must be corrected.
  2. Imagine if, by some fluke, you got shot right there, wouldn’t that be a real shame?

Or maybe it’s not a bug.

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Can you make a bug report about it?

I can do it. However, do you confirm that it is a bug?

That already reported on devserver section.

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ok I won’t make a duplicate ^^ merci

Looking back at it it’s still very annoying that Gaijin models Leclercs composite to be only a few plates with space inbetween. The spaces are filled with material to all the sources and articles I found.

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Just took a look at the AZUR in the latest update of the dev server and the only thing that changed so far is that the roof MG is now functional. AZUR armor is still classified as ERA, it still has the same protection, no OFL F2, same reload, no LWS. Honestly, I don’t have high hopes for the AZUR to be any improvment over the Leclercs we already have. At the moment it’s just more of the same, and that’s honestly not enough given the current performance of the Leclercs.

And even if the AZUR does get a LWS:

  • It’s not sufficent in and of itself to make the Leclerc competitive
  • It doesn’t help the existing Leclercs

Also, Gaijin seems to be completely ignoring my bug report about the angle penetration for some reason <_<

I’m honestly pretty lost as to what to do to get gaijin to make improvments to the Leclerc at this point.

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Well, do we have some sources so we can try to make a change on something?

One that might help for the ERA issue

The document states that the armor plating blocks reported are exclusively designed to combat threats such as anti-tank infantry rockets, a protection kit against the penetration of projectiles and flaming liquids (HEAT).

But again states for passive protection modules which means NERA. Plus it’s the concept as it’s a dossier and not a technical document which states 360° against these threats that include the SLAT armor. For increased side armor against kinetic shells there is no mention so far

I’ve found that old report about turret sides: Fwd: May/13/2020 [1.95.0.36] Leclerc incorrect turret side armor - Documented Ground Reports - War Thunder - Official Forum
It was submitted nearly 4 YEARS AGO, even before the S2 got added and nothing’s been done

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That’s why it’s only forwarded to the devs for consideration and not “Will be implimented” even though these are some good sources. I have a PDF of one of these books and it says the armor is like early chobham but better suited against kinetic ammo. I’ll have a short look if I can find the page

grafik

There it is

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Yeah, but it’s pretty depressing. No matter how many sources are provide to them, if they don’t feel like implementing a change they won’t. At this point I’m just wondering what the hell we’re supposed to do if even good sources aren’t enough to get them to move.

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Thats great. Someone can make a bug report? If nobody can i will.

Can you send the full page with full book with isbn? Lets try to make another bug report today

If nobody wants i can do that… Please send me the full book about the side era and i will make a bug report in an hour or so

There you go. It’s " Char Leclerc : De la guerre froide aux conflits de demain" ISBN-10 2726894380, ISBN-13 978-2726894385

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thanks, will create the report in a bit.

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