The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

Have you seen those wedges from inside?

There was a person on old forum who claimed that arrowheads and side wedges shouldnt provide those protection levels because of how their design.

People showed to him countless evidence,photos and diameters to prove that he was wrong and they did.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/2QPU8eJZaDIP

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and on the other side there is evidence apfsds ignores angles so any funny construction inside dosent mater
but again we don’t know simular how dont know if relic can stop high power apfsds (unless there have been news on that)
so conclusion is there is non. theory and result are not the same thing

very nice!

“Suggestion” x)

The wedges remove the fins from the dart and destabilise it. Then, as long as it completely fits inside the cavity, it begins to tumble and hits the main armour at a suboptimal angle, causing it to have severely degraded performance or even shatter. The swedish trials showed that the wedges were incredibly effective.

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Nice.

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Amazing!

You should be pushing for Leclerc improvements instead of flagging & defaming everyone.

I guess removing the side turret bustle ERA on the S1 and S2 is up next?

S21 supposedly saved weight by using ERA elements on the turret bustle. Then using that weight to improve frontal turret armor. S1 and S2 i guess only used composites on the bustle sides?

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We do have any sources that states that?

Sources i can point to? No

French wikipedia mentions it has one of the notable changes for S21 (They cite a “Trucks and tanks Magazine” piece from 2018)

What S1 and S2 use exactly idk, some composite i guess.

As far as I’m aware it’s about Leclerc XXI having ERA between the composite armor and the storage boxes (if I’m understanding it correctly) so they all keep the ERA but XXI would get some extra between armor components

I remember there being a historical report about this on the old forum, it’s hard to find now

Maybe? But that wouldn’t explain why the ERA is mentioned as a weight saving measure allowing for new material to be used on the frontal arc to improve protection.

It does essentially hinge on what is actually said in the French magazine article and how true that actually is. But i dont know anything about the magazine to know of the sourcing is garbage and idk where one could find a release to check

The sources used for the doc are marked at the end of the doc. And if the Leclerc designers aren’t reliable enough sources, I don’t know what to say…

Can you send me all the sources? I can try to make another bug report.
Do we have some info about the turret rotation? Its correct? It can be better?

Who are you asking?

All of you so we can make another report

Our first LWS Leclerc.
I guess S2 AZUR does indeed replace S2 for me.